GA pilot lost control of small aircraft on icy runway.

Attributes
ACN	131437
Time
Date	198912
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pou
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	landing other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 375 flight time type : 175
ASRS Report	131437
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : local
Qualification	controller : non radar
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation

Narrative:

12/sun/89, after landing on runway 24 at dutchess county airport, I began braking to slow. The aircraft skidded forward and then to the left of the runway. It was then that I realized that there was ice on the surface of the runway. After parking the aircraft the tower asked that I examine my aircraft for damage. Tower also stated that I may have knocked down some runway lights that were in the snow at side of runway. Ground personnel and I checked aircraft and saw a small dent under left wing, very close to the fuselage. No other noticeable damage was seen. Tower also told operation personnel to take care F the ice. A caution should have been given. It's my opinion that the tower should have informed snow truck operator to make sure all ice was removed before runway was open for landing aircraft, if they wanted to be safe. It's also clear that if a warning had been sent out to all landing aircraft via ATC, NOTAM, PIREPS or tower stating 'runway 24 plowed, caution, ice may be still present on surface,' could and would have made a big decision in my plan to land. Warning must be given before clearance is given to land.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: GA PLT LOST CONTROL OF SMA ON ICY RWY.

Narrative: 12/SUN/89, AFTER LNDG ON RWY 24 AT DUTCHESS COUNTY ARPT, I BEGAN BRAKING TO SLOW. THE ACFT SKIDDED FORWARD AND THEN TO THE LEFT OF THE RWY. IT WAS THEN THAT I REALIZED THAT THERE WAS ICE ON THE SURFACE OF THE RWY. AFTER PARKING THE ACFT THE TWR ASKED THAT I EXAMINE MY ACFT FOR DAMAGE. TWR ALSO STATED THAT I MAY HAVE KNOCKED DOWN SOME RWY LIGHTS THAT WERE IN THE SNOW AT SIDE OF RWY. GND PERSONNEL AND I CHKED ACFT AND SAW A SMALL DENT UNDER LEFT WING, VERY CLOSE TO THE FUSELAGE. NO OTHER NOTICEABLE DAMAGE WAS SEEN. TWR ALSO TOLD OPERATION PERSONNEL TO TAKE CARE F THE ICE. A CAUTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN. IT'S MY OPINION THAT THE TWR SHOULD HAVE INFORMED SNOW TRUCK OPERATOR TO MAKE SURE ALL ICE WAS REMOVED BEFORE RWY WAS OPEN FOR LNDG ACFT, IF THEY WANTED TO BE SAFE. IT'S ALSO CLEAR THAT IF A WARNING HAD BEEN SENT OUT TO ALL LNDG ACFT VIA ATC, NOTAM, PIREPS OR TWR STATING 'RWY 24 PLOWED, CAUTION, ICE MAY BE STILL PRESENT ON SURFACE,' COULD AND WOULD HAVE MADE A BIG DECISION IN MY PLAN TO LAND. WARNING MUST BE GIVEN BEFORE CLRNC IS GIVEN TO LAND.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.