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Attributes | |
ACN | 131780 |
Time | |
Date | 198912 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : yyz |
State Reference | ON |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : yyz |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 131780 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3700 flight time type : 950 |
ASRS Report | 131947 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight from dtw to yyz. At time the clearance for the profile descent was received, we were not on any part of the route structure associated with the STAR. Upon review of the enclosed plate, my first officer and I interpreted the crossing restriction to be 26 DME at 9000' and 250 KTS. At approximately 10000', ATC advised us to level at 1000' and asked us what altitude we were descending to. After some discussion with ATC, we were told this wasn't the first time this had happened. They were expecting us to be 26 DME at 13000'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT APCHING YYZ ADVISED BY APCH CTLR THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE LEVELED AT 13000 INSTEAD OF 10000'.
Narrative: FLT FROM DTW TO YYZ. AT TIME THE CLRNC FOR THE PROFILE DSCNT WAS RECEIVED, WE WERE NOT ON ANY PART OF THE ROUTE STRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE STAR. UPON REVIEW OF THE ENCLOSED PLATE, MY F/O AND I INTERPRETED THE XING RESTRICTION TO BE 26 DME AT 9000' AND 250 KTS. AT APPROX 10000', ATC ADVISED US TO LEVEL AT 1000' AND ASKED US WHAT ALT WE WERE DSNDING TO. AFTER SOME DISCUSSION WITH ATC, WE WERE TOLD THIS WASN'T THE FIRST TIME THIS HAD HAPPENED. THEY WERE EXPECTING US TO BE 26 DME AT 13000'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.