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Attributes | |
ACN | 136398 |
Time | |
Date | 199002 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dxr |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 1600 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 136398 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on a x-country to danbury. While en route we decided to go to an airport with a grass strip (since the student was having trouble finding airports). We entered left downwind. The north part of the runway was shaded and had light patches of snow and ice, which is the reason we didn't see the white X on the runway identing it as closed. We landed and I told the student to go around. With his hesitation I decided to abort the takeoff. We slid off the end of the runway into some brush undergrowth. We did minor damage to the leading edge of the wings. It would have been better to use other than white X's to close the airport, and better planning en route. Flight instruction was a contributing factor because if I was alone or with a more experienced pilot, a more timely decision would have been made to go around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA FLT INSTRUCTOR INSTRUCTS STUDENT TO DO A TOUCH AND GO AFTER THE STUDENT HAD LANDED, THEN TOOK CONTROL AND ATTEMPTED TO ABORT WHEN THE STUDENT HESITATED. THE RWY WAS CLOSED.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A X-COUNTRY TO DANBURY. WHILE ENRTE WE DECIDED TO GO TO AN ARPT WITH A GRASS STRIP (SINCE THE STUDENT WAS HAVING TROUBLE FINDING ARPTS). WE ENTERED LEFT DOWNWIND. THE N PART OF THE RWY WAS SHADED AND HAD LIGHT PATCHES OF SNOW AND ICE, WHICH IS THE REASON WE DIDN'T SEE THE WHITE X ON THE RWY IDENTING IT AS CLOSED. WE LANDED AND I TOLD THE STUDENT TO GO AROUND. WITH HIS HESITATION I DECIDED TO ABORT THE TKOF. WE SLID OFF THE END OF THE RWY INTO SOME BRUSH UNDERGROWTH. WE DID MINOR DAMAGE TO THE LEADING EDGE OF THE WINGS. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO USE OTHER THAN WHITE X'S TO CLOSE THE ARPT, AND BETTER PLANNING ENRTE. FLT INSTRUCTION WAS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR BECAUSE IF I WAS ALONE OR WITH A MORE EXPERIENCED PLT, A MORE TIMELY DECISION WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE TO GO AROUND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.