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Attributes | |
ACN | 138764 |
Time | |
Date | 199003 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax artcc : zmp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 138764 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 1900 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 138748 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe incursion : runway non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 700 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Was flying as PIC and as flying pilot. Had crossed over smo and started turn to 070 degree for downwind at lax. Controller told us to expect visual approach to what I thought was 25L and called traffic out that we were supposed to follow. Traffic was in sight and were cleared for the visual to what I had heard to be 25L. I tuned localizer 109.9 for 25L and started to turn base. Noticed traffic not previously called converging rapidly from left. Continued turn to parallel course of traffic and leveled off so as to keep distance. Conflict was avoided using normal maneuvers. Called ATC and asked them to confirm that we were for runway 25L. He replied that we were for 24L and could we make the runway from our present position. We replied 'affirmative' and then were cleared visual approach 24L and told to contact tower. The major problem I can detect was one of my first officer and I not questioning the other to confirm that both of us had heard the same instructions. Company policy and far's dictate that we should use any NAVAID available for reference during approach. Had the first officer noticed the localizer frequency selected, she could have alerted me to my error. Marginal cockpit communication was the major factor involved.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER LTT CREATES A LOSS OF SEPARATION WITH ANOTHER ACFT ON A WRONG RWY APCH.
Narrative: WAS FLYING AS PIC AND AS FLYING PLT. HAD CROSSED OVER SMO AND STARTED TURN TO 070 DEG FOR DOWNWIND AT LAX. CTLR TOLD US TO EXPECT VISUAL APCH TO WHAT I THOUGHT WAS 25L AND CALLED TFC OUT THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW. TFC WAS IN SIGHT AND WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL TO WHAT I HAD HEARD TO BE 25L. I TUNED LOC 109.9 FOR 25L AND STARTED TO TURN BASE. NOTICED TFC NOT PREVIOUSLY CALLED CONVERGING RAPIDLY FROM LEFT. CONTINUED TURN TO PARALLEL COURSE OF TFC AND LEVELED OFF SO AS TO KEEP DISTANCE. CONFLICT WAS AVOIDED USING NORMAL MANEUVERS. CALLED ATC AND ASKED THEM TO CONFIRM THAT WE WERE FOR RWY 25L. HE REPLIED THAT WE WERE FOR 24L AND COULD WE MAKE THE RWY FROM OUR PRESENT POSITION. WE REPLIED 'AFFIRMATIVE' AND THEN WERE CLRED VISUAL APCH 24L AND TOLD TO CONTACT TWR. THE MAJOR PROBLEM I CAN DETECT WAS ONE OF MY F/O AND I NOT QUESTIONING THE OTHER TO CONFIRM THAT BOTH OF US HAD HEARD THE SAME INSTRUCTIONS. COMPANY POLICY AND FAR'S DICTATE THAT WE SHOULD USE ANY NAVAID AVAILABLE FOR REFERENCE DURING APCH. HAD THE F/O NOTICED THE LOC FREQ SELECTED, SHE COULD HAVE ALERTED ME TO MY ERROR. MARGINAL COCKPIT COM WAS THE MAJOR FACTOR INVOLVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.