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Attributes | |
ACN | 142089 |
Time | |
Date | 199004 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 26000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 142089 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On direct routing to jfk VOR toward bos, we were given a crossing restriction from FL330 to cross the jfk 061 degree right 20 DME at FL240. We were vectored off the arwy and cleared to descend FL240. Following, we were vectored back to intercept the jfk 061 degree right and the same restriction. My first officer and I questioned whether there was a restriction. We ultimately crossed FL240 at 25 NM north vs 20 NM. No comment was made by ZBW. This situation is brought to attention as ARTCC controllers continually give altitude restrictions, vector flts off the arwy and further return the flight to the arwy, confusing the altitude crossing restriction clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT DEVIATION. ALT UNDERSHOT. CROSSING RESTRICTION NOT MET.
Narrative: ON DIRECT ROUTING TO JFK VOR TOWARD BOS, WE WERE GIVEN A XING RESTRICTION FROM FL330 TO CROSS THE JFK 061 DEG R 20 DME AT FL240. WE WERE VECTORED OFF THE ARWY AND CLRED TO DSND FL240. FOLLOWING, WE WERE VECTORED BACK TO INTERCEPT THE JFK 061 DEG R AND THE SAME RESTRICTION. MY F/O AND I QUESTIONED WHETHER THERE WAS A RESTRICTION. WE ULTIMATELY CROSSED FL240 AT 25 NM N VS 20 NM. NO COMMENT WAS MADE BY ZBW. THIS SITUATION IS BROUGHT TO ATTN AS ARTCC CTLRS CONTINUALLY GIVE ALT RESTRICTIONS, VECTOR FLTS OFF THE ARWY AND FURTHER RETURN THE FLT TO THE ARWY, CONFUSING THE ALT XING RESTRICTION CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.