Captain of large transport taxied past hold line for runway 9L at mia.

Attributes
ACN	152394
Time
Date	199007
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mia
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 325
ASRS Report	152394
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

As we approached 9L mia tower told us to hold short of 9L and I acknowledged the call. The captain continued taxiing toward the runway. It became obvious to me that he was going to cross the hold line (the line is quite a way from the runway). I said, 'you aren't cleared onto the runway,' and the captain responded, 'I'm not going onto the runway.' he taxied up to the runway and stopped. He didn't intrude on the runway. About 30 seconds later mia cleared us for takeoff and added, 'you know you crossed the designated hold line.' I said, 'I'm sorry about that.' he sounded pretty upset, so I'm writing you guys. Problems: the captain told me he was looking at a painted over line he thought was the hold line. He said he was confused by all the lines. Communication: I could have phrased it differently and said, 'you are crossing the hold line--you aren't cleared on the runway.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CAPT OF LGT TAXIED PAST HOLD LINE FOR RWY 9L AT MIA.

Narrative: AS WE APCHED 9L MIA TWR TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT OF 9L AND I ACKNOWLEDGED THE CALL. THE CAPT CONTINUED TAXIING TOWARD THE RWY. IT BECAME OBVIOUS TO ME THAT HE WAS GOING TO CROSS THE HOLD LINE (THE LINE IS QUITE A WAY FROM THE RWY). I SAID, 'YOU AREN'T CLRED ONTO THE RWY,' AND THE CAPT RESPONDED, 'I'M NOT GOING ONTO THE RWY.' HE TAXIED UP TO THE RWY AND STOPPED. HE DIDN'T INTRUDE ON THE RWY. ABOUT 30 SECS LATER MIA CLRED US FOR TKOF AND ADDED, 'YOU KNOW YOU CROSSED THE DESIGNATED HOLD LINE.' I SAID, 'I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.' HE SOUNDED PRETTY UPSET, SO I'M WRITING YOU GUYS. PROBS: THE CAPT TOLD ME HE WAS LOOKING AT A PAINTED OVER LINE HE THOUGHT WAS THE HOLD LINE. HE SAID HE WAS CONFUSED BY ALL THE LINES. COM: I COULD HAVE PHRASED IT DIFFERENTLY AND SAID, 'YOU ARE XING THE HOLD LINE--YOU AREN'T CLRED ON THE RWY.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.