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Attributes | |
ACN | 1534135 |
Time | |
Date | 201804 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole/Turbo Seminole |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Instructor |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Events | |
Anomaly | Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural FAR Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
I was with my student on his 3rd multi engine flight. We needed to get above 4;000 ft to practice maneuvers; including VMC demonstration and securing an engine. It was extremely windy and bumpy; and there was an airmet for moderate turbulence beginning at the surface during the flight. The clouds were reported to be scattered at 3;600 ft. We saw a hole in the clouds; and I told the student to try and climb above it. I looked down at my ipad and realized we were still inside the outermost layer of class B airspace; beginning at 4;000 ft. When I realized this fact; my student had climbed above 4;000 ft; and I told him to immediately descend back below 4;000 ft. We were slightly above 4;000 ft for approximately 10 seconds. In the future; I will not attempt to climb above scattered cloud layers if I need to do maneuvers. I will either file a flight plan to get on top or not fly at all.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Flight Instructor reported inadvertently allowing his student to climb into Class B Airspace.
Narrative: I was with my student on his 3rd multi engine flight. We needed to get above 4;000 ft to practice maneuvers; including VMC demonstration and securing an engine. It was extremely windy and bumpy; and there was an AIRMET for moderate turbulence beginning at the surface during the flight. The clouds were reported to be scattered at 3;600 ft. We saw a hole in the clouds; and I told the student to try and climb above it. I looked down at my IPad and realized we were still inside the outermost layer of class B airspace; beginning at 4;000 ft. When I realized this fact; my student had climbed above 4;000 ft; and I told him to immediately descend back below 4;000 ft. We were slightly above 4;000 ft for approximately 10 seconds. In the future; I will not attempt to climb above scattered cloud layers if I need to do maneuvers. I will either file a flight plan to get on top or not fly at all.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.