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Attributes | |
ACN | 154099 |
Time | |
Date | 199008 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : scy airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw tracon : dfw tower : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3750 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 154099 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We were given a very late clearance to cross seago (scy 296/18 DME) at 11000'. When asked if we could do that, we replied that we would do our best. When passing through approximately 13000' we were handed off to the next controller. At approximately 12000' in a high rate of descent, the controller very urgently requested we level off at 12000'. Immediate action was taken to stop the descent and return to 12000'. We then saw an aircraft that appeared to be at 11000' and 1 mi away.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG IS CLEARED TO DESCEND OT 10000' DURING ARR AT DFW, BUT APCH CTLR STOPS DESCENT AT 12000' DUE TO CONFLICTING TRAFFIC. MLG HAD JUST BEEN HANDED OFF FROM CENTER TO APCH.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A VERY LATE CLRNC TO CROSS SEAGO (SCY 296/18 DME) AT 11000'. WHEN ASKED IF WE COULD DO THAT, WE REPLIED THAT WE WOULD DO OUR BEST. WHEN PASSING THROUGH APPROX 13000' WE WERE HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR. AT APPROX 12000' IN A HIGH RATE OF DSNT, THE CTLR VERY URGENTLY REQUESTED WE LEVEL OFF AT 12000'. IMMEDIATE ACTION WAS TAKEN TO STOP THE DSNT AND RETURN TO 12000'. WE THEN SAW AN ACFT THAT APPEARED TO BE AT 11000' AND 1 MI AWAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.