Close proximity air carrier-medium large transport GA-small aircraft sam direction.

Attributes
ACN	155030
Time
Date	199008
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : abq
State Reference	NM
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : abq
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 600
ASRS Report	155030
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 3000 vertical : 2000
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were inbound to abq on the 006 right to abq VOR. Approximately 10 north of the VOR we were asked if we had the small aircraft traffic at 2 O'clock some distance ahead of us, 1000' below us. I pointed the traffic out to the captain. He acknowledged the traffic and that he had abq airport in sight. I relayed this to approach. Approach cleared us for the visual and told us to maintain sep from the small aircraft. While in our descent I felt we were getting too close to the small aircraft and pointed it out to the captain one more time. His response was 'oh that's the traffic they're talking about.' he then pushed the aircraft over and passed ahead of and below the small aircraft. As approach handed us off to tower, the pilot of the small aircraft aircraft made a comment about our proximity, but I didn't catch what all he had to say. In retrospect, I would have to say the captain did not have the other aircraft in sight. When pointing out another aircraft to the other pilot, make sure you're both looking at the same aircraft.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLOSE PROX ACR-MLG GA-SMA SAM DIRECTION.

Narrative: WE WERE INBND TO ABQ ON THE 006 R TO ABQ VOR. APPROX 10 N OF THE VOR WE WERE ASKED IF WE HAD THE SMA TFC AT 2 O'CLOCK SOME DISTANCE AHEAD OF US, 1000' BELOW US. I POINTED THE TFC OUT TO THE CAPT. HE ACKNOWLEDGED THE TFC AND THAT HE HAD ABQ ARPT IN SIGHT. I RELAYED THIS TO APCH. APCH CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL AND TOLD US TO MAINTAIN SEP FROM THE SMA. WHILE IN OUR DSNT I FELT WE WERE GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE SMA AND POINTED IT OUT TO THE CAPT ONE MORE TIME. HIS RESPONSE WAS 'OH THAT'S THE TFC THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.' HE THEN PUSHED THE ACFT OVER AND PASSED AHEAD OF AND BELOW THE SMA. AS APCH HANDED US OFF TO TWR, THE PLT OF THE SMA ACFT MADE A COMMENT ABOUT OUR PROX, BUT I DIDN'T CATCH WHAT ALL HE HAD TO SAY. IN RETROSPECT, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THE CAPT DID NOT HAVE THE OTHER ACFT IN SIGHT. WHEN POINTING OUT ANOTHER ACFT TO THE OTHER PLT, MAKE SURE YOU'RE BOTH LOOKING AT THE SAME ACFT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.