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Attributes | |
ACN | 155669 |
Time | |
Date | 199008 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hto airport : fok |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 155669 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Proficiency flight in IFR conditions (hto-fok-hto) cleared originally to fok via direct hto direct fok, climb and maintain 2000', expect 3000' at hto. En route hto, approach requested me to fly the 'published transition' to the ILS approach at fok. This is a radial from hto and an altitude of 2700'. Passing hto, I began climb to 2700'. Approach evidently expected me to maintain 2000'. Deviation discovered when approach asked for PIREP on bases at hto and I included in my report the bases and tops. At 2700' I had just broken out.. In my opinion, terminology 'published transition' is precise--what is published on chart. If I was expected to fly radial and 2000', then the amended clearance should be 'fly radial XXX to intercept localizer, maintain XXXX'.' next time my readback will be more than echoing, 'fly published transition.' callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: upon discovering that the reporter had climbed from 2000' to the 2700' minimum altitude for the transition, the approach controller immediately sent the reporter back to 2000'. The controller did not indicate that a traffic conflict occurred or was about to occur, nor did the reporter note any radio traffic that would suggest that a potential conflict existed. Additionally, the matter is not being pursued by the FAA to the best of the reporter's knowledge.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLEARED VIA A PUBLISHED TRANSITION, THE PLT OF AN SMA IS CRITICIZED FOR CLIMBING UP TO THE MINIMUM PUBLISHED ALT.
Narrative: PROFICIENCY FLT IN IFR CONDITIONS (HTO-FOK-HTO) CLRED ORIGINALLY TO FOK VIA DIRECT HTO DIRECT FOK, CLB AND MAINTAIN 2000', EXPECT 3000' AT HTO. ENRTE HTO, APCH REQUESTED ME TO FLY THE 'PUBLISHED TRANSITION' TO THE ILS APCH AT FOK. THIS IS A RADIAL FROM HTO AND AN ALT OF 2700'. PASSING HTO, I BEGAN CLB TO 2700'. APCH EVIDENTLY EXPECTED ME TO MAINTAIN 2000'. DEVIATION DISCOVERED WHEN APCH ASKED FOR PIREP ON BASES AT HTO AND I INCLUDED IN MY RPT THE BASES AND TOPS. AT 2700' I HAD JUST BROKEN OUT.. IN MY OPINION, TERMINOLOGY 'PUBLISHED TRANSITION' IS PRECISE--WHAT IS PUBLISHED ON CHART. IF I WAS EXPECTED TO FLY RADIAL AND 2000', THEN THE AMENDED CLRNC SHOULD BE 'FLY RADIAL XXX TO INTERCEPT LOC, MAINTAIN XXXX'.' NEXT TIME MY READBACK WILL BE MORE THAN ECHOING, 'FLY PUBLISHED TRANSITION.' CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: UPON DISCOVERING THAT THE RPTR HAD CLBED FROM 2000' TO THE 2700' MINIMUM ALT FOR THE TRANSITION, THE APCH CTLR IMMEDIATELY SENT THE RPTR BACK TO 2000'. THE CTLR DID NOT INDICATE THAT A TFC CONFLICT OCCURRED OR WAS ABOUT TO OCCUR, NOR DID THE RPTR NOTE ANY RADIO TFC THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT A POTENTIAL CONFLICT EXISTED. ADDITIONALLY, THE MATTER IS NOT BEING PURSUED BY THE FAA TO THE BEST OF THE RPTR'S KNOWLEDGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.