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Attributes | |
ACN | 156569 |
Time | |
Date | 199009 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sbn |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 156569 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was first officer on air carrier X from south bend to kalamazoo. We received our clearance from terre haute radio with a void time of xx:10 zulu. After setting our clocks to xx:01 zulu, given to us by the terre haute flight service specialist we proceeded to runway 27 and started our takeoff roll by zz:10 zulu. When we contacted chicago center in our climb the controller told us that it was 13 after and questioned us on our void time of xx:10. His question was such that we decided to talk with the controllers in kalamazoo about it. They called the control center for us and we found that we were going to be violated. Doesn't void time refer to the takeoff roll not controller contact.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF ACR X FAILED TO COMPLY WITH ATC CLRNC. TKOF AFTER CLRNC VOID TIME.
Narrative: I WAS F/O ON ACR X FROM S BEND TO KALAMAZOO. WE RECEIVED OUR CLRNC FROM TERRE HAUTE RADIO WITH A VOID TIME OF XX:10 ZULU. AFTER SETTING OUR CLOCKS TO XX:01 ZULU, GIVEN TO US BY THE TERRE HAUTE FLT SVC SPECIALIST WE PROCEEDED TO RWY 27 AND STARTED OUR TKOF ROLL BY ZZ:10 ZULU. WHEN WE CONTACTED CHICAGO CTR IN OUR CLB THE CTLR TOLD US THAT IT WAS 13 AFTER AND QUESTIONED US ON OUR VOID TIME OF XX:10. HIS QUESTION WAS SUCH THAT WE DECIDED TO TALK WITH THE CTLRS IN KALAMAZOO ABOUT IT. THEY CALLED THE CTL CTR FOR US AND WE FOUND THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE VIOLATED. DOESN'T VOID TIME REFER TO THE TKOF ROLL NOT CTLR CONTACT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.