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Air carrier large transport landed before previous landing widebody transport was clear of the runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 156906 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199009 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : hpn |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 13000 |
| ASRS Report | 156906 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 156907 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 3500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Cleared visibility approach runway 24R lax. Checked in with tower on 9 DME final and cleared to land. Upon T/D first officer and I noticed the widebody transport Y ahead of us on approach was just clearing runway 24R at the end. Normal braking and we cleared the runway at high speed turnoff #65 with about 3500' of runway remaining. It appeared that approach and tower were both overloaded. Supplemental information from acn 156907: during final 1000' of approach, it was apparent that the controllers were very busy (radio traffic, etc). At T/D I saw the logo light, then the landing lights as the widebody transport Y turned to clear the runway. I shouted, 'he's still on the runway.' captain and first officer also saw the profile at this time. Another widebody transport was apparently blocking the access to the taxiway, and the tower did not realize it. We had been cleared to land approximately 9 mi out.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT LANDED BEFORE PREVIOUS LNDG WDB WAS CLEAR OF THE RWY.
Narrative: CLRED VIS APCH RWY 24R LAX. CHKED IN WITH TWR ON 9 DME FINAL AND CLRED TO LAND. UPON T/D F/O AND I NOTICED THE WDB Y AHEAD OF US ON APCH WAS JUST CLRING RWY 24R AT THE END. NORMAL BRAKING AND WE CLRED THE RWY AT HIGH SPD TURNOFF #65 WITH ABOUT 3500' OF RWY REMAINING. IT APPEARED THAT APCH AND TWR WERE BOTH OVERLOADED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 156907: DURING FINAL 1000' OF APCH, IT WAS APPARENT THAT THE CTLRS WERE VERY BUSY (RADIO TFC, ETC). AT T/D I SAW THE LOGO LIGHT, THEN THE LNDG LIGHTS AS THE WDB Y TURNED TO CLR THE RWY. I SHOUTED, 'HE'S STILL ON THE RWY.' CAPT AND F/O ALSO SAW THE PROFILE AT THIS TIME. ANOTHER WDB WAS APPARENTLY BLOCKING THE ACCESS TO THE TXWY, AND THE TWR DID NOT REALIZE IT. WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO LAND APPROX 9 MI OUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.