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Attributes | |
ACN | 159073 |
Time | |
Date | 199010 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | descent other landing other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 159073 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 159075 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Tower reported visibility reported to be 15 mi. We were cleared for the stadium visibility runway 24R approach, land on runway 24L. I made the base leg turn when asked to just west of the harbor freeway. I had the ILS to runway 24R tuned in. The ILS to runway 24L was not operational. I probably spent too much time trying to figure out what 'dog leg minimum of 1 mi...' meant on the approach plate. When I looked out to see the airport I could only see 2 runways at about 2:30. There was a lot of haze and we were looking through the haze right into the sun. The other 2 runways were not visible at this time. I assumed these were the north complex runways. In actuality they were 25L & right. We were directly abeam the north complex. It was here that I saw the small transport at 12 O'clock. At about the same time the tower called and asked us if we had the small transport. We did. We were already in the turn to the right and it was only at this point that the runways 24 complex became visible. We asked tower if we were still ok to slide back on over to the north and land on runway 24L. They said yes and we did. Supplemental information from acn 159075: I believe the cause of the overshoot was an early turn to base requested by approach control; looking into a hazy sunset; preoccupation with trying to decipher all the information on the visibility approach plate, i.e. Trying to fly a visibility approach west/O looking outside by trying to comply with the restrictions on plate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX ACR MLG ON A STADIUM VISUAL AND A COMMUTER STRAIGHT IN TO OTHER PARALLEL RWYS AT LAX.
Narrative: TWR RPTED VISIBILITY RPTED TO BE 15 MI. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE STADIUM VIS RWY 24R APCH, LAND ON RWY 24L. I MADE THE BASE LEG TURN WHEN ASKED TO JUST W OF THE HARBOR FREEWAY. I HAD THE ILS TO RWY 24R TUNED IN. THE ILS TO RWY 24L WAS NOT OPERATIONAL. I PROBABLY SPENT TOO MUCH TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 'DOG LEG MINIMUM OF 1 MI...' MEANT ON THE APCH PLATE. WHEN I LOOKED OUT TO SEE THE ARPT I COULD ONLY SEE 2 RWYS AT ABOUT 2:30. THERE WAS A LOT OF HAZE AND WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH THE HAZE RIGHT INTO THE SUN. THE OTHER 2 RWYS WERE NOT VISIBLE AT THIS TIME. I ASSUMED THESE WERE THE N COMPLEX RWYS. IN ACTUALITY THEY WERE 25L & R. WE WERE DIRECTLY ABEAM THE N COMPLEX. IT WAS HERE THAT I SAW THE SMT AT 12 O'CLOCK. AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME THE TWR CALLED AND ASKED US IF WE HAD THE SMT. WE DID. WE WERE ALREADY IN THE TURN TO THE RIGHT AND IT WAS ONLY AT THIS POINT THAT THE RWYS 24 COMPLEX BECAME VISIBLE. WE ASKED TWR IF WE WERE STILL OK TO SLIDE BACK ON OVER TO THE N AND LAND ON RWY 24L. THEY SAID YES AND WE DID. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 159075: I BELIEVE THE CAUSE OF THE OVERSHOOT WAS AN EARLY TURN TO BASE REQUESTED BY APCH CTL; LOOKING INTO A HAZY SUNSET; PREOCCUPATION WITH TRYING TO DECIPHER ALL THE INFO ON THE VIS APCH PLATE, I.E. TRYING TO FLY A VIS APCH W/O LOOKING OUTSIDE BY TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THE RESTRICTIONS ON PLATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.