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Attributes | |
ACN | 160121 |
Time | |
Date | 199010 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 280 |
ASRS Report | 160121 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
WX deteriorated rapidly. Radar in medium large transport slowed level 3 or greater storms throughout approach path. ATC attempted to steer us through major cells several times. Asked for and did not receive alternate clrncs. Finally did fly through storm. As we did, ATC advised previous traffic had only heavy rain. He should have told us sooner--if he had, we would have flown through WX area. Controller appeared to have no concern for flight conditions, or safety of aircraft and occupants. Situation deteriorated very rapidly. Controller claimed that we were on heading to conflict with other aircraft. This may have been true. There were too many aircraft in 1 place. The controller was talking so fast that no one could tell him what was happening to us. If it had been severe WX, someone would have gotten hurt that day. As it was, it was a mess. Solution: controllers should listen to pilot reports. Aircraft radar should differentiate between levels 3, 4, 5, 6 returns (they do not!!), and how about a little more advance planning at ord? Departures, arrs should have been shut down.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG TRACK HEADING DEVIATION DURING APCH TO ORD IN TURBULENT WX.
Narrative: WX DETERIORATED RAPIDLY. RADAR IN MLG SLOWED LEVEL 3 OR GREATER STORMS THROUGHOUT APCH PATH. ATC ATTEMPTED TO STEER US THROUGH MAJOR CELLS SEVERAL TIMES. ASKED FOR AND DID NOT RECEIVE ALTERNATE CLRNCS. FINALLY DID FLY THROUGH STORM. AS WE DID, ATC ADVISED PREVIOUS TFC HAD ONLY HVY RAIN. HE SHOULD HAVE TOLD US SOONER--IF HE HAD, WE WOULD HAVE FLOWN THROUGH WX AREA. CTLR APPEARED TO HAVE NO CONCERN FOR FLT CONDITIONS, OR SAFETY OF ACFT AND OCCUPANTS. SITUATION DETERIORATED VERY RAPIDLY. CTLR CLAIMED THAT WE WERE ON HDG TO CONFLICT WITH OTHER ACFT. THIS MAY HAVE BEEN TRUE. THERE WERE TOO MANY ACFT IN 1 PLACE. THE CTLR WAS TALKING SO FAST THAT NO ONE COULD TELL HIM WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO US. IF IT HAD BEEN SEVERE WX, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN HURT THAT DAY. AS IT WAS, IT WAS A MESS. SOLUTION: CTLRS SHOULD LISTEN TO PLT RPTS. ACFT RADAR SHOULD DIFFERENTIATE BTWN LEVELS 3, 4, 5, 6 RETURNS (THEY DO NOT!!), AND HOW ABOUT A LITTLE MORE ADVANCE PLANNING AT ORD? DEPS, ARRS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.