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Attributes | |
ACN | 162596 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 18600 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 162596 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 16R at sea and turning left at the runway end, both the first officer and I understood the tower controller to say 'cross runway 16L and remain this frequency.' the first officer acknowledged the clearance to cross, as is verified on the tower tape. Upon seeing an aircraft in position on runway 16L, I queried the first officer to make sure we both heard the same crossing clearance. He again replied we were cleared to cross and we proceeded. The tower told us to expedite crossing and then cancelled an aircraft takeoff clearance. The tower controller obviously did not understand our readback and we obviously did not understand her instructions. Two way radio communications are subject to many vagaries, workload, extraneous noise levels, clarity, reception ability, static etc and until a better method presents itself perhaps we should use standard terminology, such as is used in bos to prevent runway incursions, requiring a specific hold short clearance and a specific hold short acknowledgement.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CROSSED ACTIVE RWY WHEN ACFT HAD BEEN CLEARED FOR TKOF.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 16R AT SEA AND TURNING L AT THE RWY END, BOTH THE F/O AND I UNDERSTOOD THE TWR CTLR TO SAY 'CROSS RWY 16L AND REMAIN THIS FREQ.' THE F/O ACKNOWLEDGED THE CLRNC TO CROSS, AS IS VERIFIED ON THE TWR TAPE. UPON SEEING AN ACFT IN POS ON RWY 16L, I QUERIED THE F/O TO MAKE SURE WE BOTH HEARD THE SAME XING CLRNC. HE AGAIN REPLIED WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS AND WE PROCEEDED. THE TWR TOLD US TO EXPEDITE XING AND THEN CANCELLED AN ACFT TKOF CLRNC. THE TWR CTLR OBVIOUSLY DID NOT UNDERSTAND OUR READBACK AND WE OBVIOUSLY DID NOT UNDERSTAND HER INSTRUCTIONS. TWO WAY RADIO COMS ARE SUBJECT TO MANY VAGARIES, WORKLOAD, EXTRANEOUS NOISE LEVELS, CLARITY, RECEPTION ABILITY, STATIC ETC AND UNTIL A BETTER METHOD PRESENTS ITSELF PERHAPS WE SHOULD USE STANDARD TERMINOLOGY, SUCH AS IS USED IN BOS TO PREVENT RWY INCURSIONS, REQUIRING A SPECIFIC HOLD SHORT CLRNC AND A SPECIFIC HOLD SHORT ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.