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Attributes | |
ACN | 163055 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 163055 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The following occurred during a frontal passage at jfk which necessitated a runway change. (Busy time for all!) after an hour of holding at camrn, we were vectored to a final intercept for the ILS on 31R. During this time we heard the controller ask a commuter flight if he would prefer 31L. The answer was affirmative. I believe he was given clearance for same at that time. As we were about to intercept the localizer for 31R, the controller said, 'I observe you going through the localizer for 31L; turn left to (?) heading to intercept.' the problem seemed to be that the controller confused our clearance with that of the commuter flight. We were subsequently given a missed approach as we were too close in for a realistic intercept.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WDB GIVEN AN INCORRECT VECTOR HAS TO GO AROUND TO BE REPOSITIONED.
Narrative: THE FOLLOWING OCCURRED DURING A FRONTAL PASSAGE AT JFK WHICH NECESSITATED A RWY CHANGE. (BUSY TIME FOR ALL!) AFTER AN HR OF HOLDING AT CAMRN, WE WERE VECTORED TO A FINAL INTERCEPT FOR THE ILS ON 31R. DURING THIS TIME WE HEARD THE CTLR ASK A COMMUTER FLT IF HE WOULD PREFER 31L. THE ANSWER WAS AFFIRMATIVE. I BELIEVE HE WAS GIVEN CLRNC FOR SAME AT THAT TIME. AS WE WERE ABOUT TO INTERCEPT THE LOC FOR 31R, THE CTLR SAID, 'I OBSERVE YOU GOING THROUGH THE LOC FOR 31L; TURN LEFT TO (?) HDG TO INTERCEPT.' THE PROB SEEMED TO BE THAT THE CTLR CONFUSED OUR CLRNC WITH THAT OF THE COMMUTER FLT. WE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY GIVEN A MISSED APCH AS WE WERE TOO CLOSE IN FOR A REALISTIC INTERCEPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.