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Attributes | |
ACN | 163597 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7700 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : iad |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 163597 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 163523 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After passing doccs intersection dulles approach cleared us (medium large transport X) to descend to 9000'. Prior and during the descent we were watching traffic traveling right to left at some distance away, when dulles approach cleared us down further to 7000'. At about 9000' we spotted small aircraft Y and small aircraft Z at 12-12:30 position and closing head on rapidly. The copilot was veering left to avoid small aircraft Y when approach control instructed us to level at 8000'. I replied '8000' with both aircraft in sight.' while the copilot was veering and leveling I realized that this may be a problem because the other aircraft Z we were watching (flying right to left) appeared to be at 8000' also, and 'right' off our nose. I instructed the copilot to disengage the autoplt and be prepared for evasive action. At this moment small aircraft Z started a noticeable descent (from what appeared level flight or descending very slowly). He flew by our nose about 300' below us, my reply to approach control was 'this is as close as I want to get to any aircraft.' approach control responded that 'he was cleared to descend to 7000'.' another approach control voice stepped in and directed us from there to the final approach fix. This could have been avoided if we were given a heading that steered us clear of both aircraft, given an altitude above both aircraft. Also, it would have been helpful if approach control would have informed us of the traffic in the area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN ACR AND SMALL ACFT.
Narrative: AFTER PASSING DOCCS INTXN DULLES APCH CLRED US (MLG X) TO DSND TO 9000'. PRIOR AND DURING THE DSNT WE WERE WATCHING TFC TRAVELING R TO L AT SOME DISTANCE AWAY, WHEN DULLES APCH CLRED US DOWN FURTHER TO 7000'. AT ABOUT 9000' WE SPOTTED SMA Y AND SMA Z AT 12-12:30 POS AND CLOSING HEAD ON RAPIDLY. THE COPLT WAS VEERING L TO AVOID SMA Y WHEN APCH CTL INSTRUCTED US TO LEVEL AT 8000'. I REPLIED '8000' WITH BOTH ACFT IN SIGHT.' WHILE THE COPLT WAS VEERING AND LEVELING I REALIZED THAT THIS MAY BE A PROB BECAUSE THE OTHER ACFT Z WE WERE WATCHING (FLYING R TO L) APPEARED TO BE AT 8000' ALSO, AND 'R' OFF OUR NOSE. I INSTRUCTED THE COPLT TO DISENGAGE THE AUTOPLT AND BE PREPARED FOR EVASIVE ACTION. AT THIS MOMENT SMA Z STARTED A NOTICEABLE DSNT (FROM WHAT APPEARED LEVEL FLT OR DSNDING VERY SLOWLY). HE FLEW BY OUR NOSE ABOUT 300' BELOW US, MY REPLY TO APCH CTL WAS 'THIS IS AS CLOSE AS I WANT TO GET TO ANY ACFT.' APCH CTL RESPONDED THAT 'HE WAS CLRED TO DSND TO 7000'.' ANOTHER APCH CTL VOICE STEPPED IN AND DIRECTED US FROM THERE TO THE FINAL APCH FIX. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF WE WERE GIVEN A HDG THAT STEERED US CLR OF BOTH ACFT, GIVEN AN ALT ABOVE BOTH ACFT. ALSO, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IF APCH CTL WOULD HAVE INFORMED US OF THE TFC IN THE AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.