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Attributes | |
ACN | 164048 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 600 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 164048 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Lax approach very busy. Cleared us for ILS 25L after fueler intersection on the civet 2 profile descent lax. About 8-10 mi out he asked us if we had a light transport in sight. We reported that we did. He then cleared us to follow the light transport and cleared us for a visibility approach 25R. We were quite a bit faster than the light transport so we began to configure and reduce speed right away and we accomplished our final descent checklist. Approach frequency still very busy. At about 1000' AGL I asked approach if he wanted us with tower. He said yes and gave us the frequency by the time I was able to 'break in' on tower frequency we were 600-700' AGL and we could see aircraft crossing runway 25R. Tower cleared us to land on runway 25L. We reported that we were unable (too close to airport for safe side step maneuver). Tower insisted we had to land runway 25L. We responded unable and initiated a go around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LG CLEARED FOR VISUAL TO RWY 25R. WHEN APPROX 600', TWR CLEARS FOR RWY 25L. GO AROUND INITIATED.
Narrative: LAX APCH VERY BUSY. CLRED US FOR ILS 25L AFTER FUELER INTXN ON THE CIVET 2 PROFILE DSNT LAX. ABOUT 8-10 MI OUT HE ASKED US IF WE HAD A LTT IN SIGHT. WE RPTED THAT WE DID. HE THEN CLRED US TO FOLLOW THE LTT AND CLRED US FOR A VIS APCH 25R. WE WERE QUITE A BIT FASTER THAN THE LTT SO WE BEGAN TO CONFIGURE AND REDUCE SPD R AWAY AND WE ACCOMPLISHED OUR FINAL DSNT CHKLIST. APCH FREQ STILL VERY BUSY. AT ABOUT 1000' AGL I ASKED APCH IF HE WANTED US WITH TWR. HE SAID YES AND GAVE US THE FREQ BY THE TIME I WAS ABLE TO 'BREAK IN' ON TWR FREQ WE WERE 600-700' AGL AND WE COULD SEE ACFT XING RWY 25R. TWR CLRED US TO LAND ON RWY 25L. WE RPTED THAT WE WERE UNABLE (TOO CLOSE TO ARPT FOR SAFE SIDE STEP MANEUVER). TWR INSISTED WE HAD TO LAND RWY 25L. WE RESPONDED UNABLE AND INITIATED A GO AROUND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.