Narrative:

At ave FMC indicated iod point. We requested (22 rm west of) descent. Center replied in about 5 mi. 45 mi past ave we were given descent and assigned a speed of 280 KTS. The first officer immediately advised center that we would be unable to meet the profile crossing restriction given of 15000' at filmore, no answer from center, twice more the center was advised the third time we asked what we could expect. We were told 'vectors'. A few mins later we were told to fly the profile route and to cross bayst at 10000'. We again advised that we would be unable to meet this new restriction. Center gave us a heading of 180 degree fr descent. By this time we were passing symon. We were also told to resume normal speed after the center questioned us as to why we couldn't meet the restrictions. I explained that starting us down late and restricting our speed would not allow us to meet their requests and that we had advised them. At this point I increased our 'normal' speed on descent to 33 KIAS in an attempt to meet their requests. The controller then told us to intercept the smo 061 degree inbound. We started our turn inbound with a 25 degree maximum bank angle but at this point the FMS showed we were only 1.4 mi from the inbound course. At 335 K, in flight level change mode we overshot the turn in by 4.1 mi. The controller complained about our bad overshoot. The first officer replied that it wasn't our fault since he hadn't given a fair shot at making the altitudes or intercept. This has happened repeatedly on this flight this is damn sloppy controling by lax center. We had a boeing tower controller on the jumpseat that heard and observed this incident.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LGT ALT DEVIATION MISSED CROSSING RESTRICTION AND TRACK DEVIATION MAKING WIDE TURN TO INTERCEPT ASSIGNED RADIAL REJOINING PROFILE DESCENT INTO LAX.

Narrative: AT AVE FMC INDICATED IOD POINT. WE REQUESTED (22 RM W OF) DSNT. CTR REPLIED IN ABOUT 5 MI. 45 MI PAST AVE WE WERE GIVEN DSNT AND ASSIGNED A SPD OF 280 KTS. THE F/O IMMEDIATELY ADVISED CTR THAT WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO MEET THE PROFILE XING RESTRICTION GIVEN OF 15000' AT FILMORE, NO ANSWER FROM CTR, TWICE MORE THE CTR WAS ADVISED THE THIRD TIME WE ASKED WHAT WE COULD EXPECT. WE WERE TOLD 'VECTORS'. A FEW MINS LATER WE WERE TOLD TO FLY THE PROFILE RTE AND TO CROSS BAYST AT 10000'. WE AGAIN ADVISED THAT WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO MEET THIS NEW RESTRICTION. CTR GAVE US A HDG OF 180 DEG FR DSNT. BY THIS TIME WE WERE PASSING SYMON. WE WERE ALSO TOLD TO RESUME NORMAL SPD AFTER THE CTR QUESTIONED US AS TO WHY WE COULDN'T MEET THE RESTRICTIONS. I EXPLAINED THAT STARTING US DOWN LATE AND RESTRICTING OUR SPD WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO MEET THEIR REQUESTS AND THAT WE HAD ADVISED THEM. AT THIS POINT I INCREASED OUR 'NORMAL' SPD ON DSNT TO 33 KIAS IN AN ATTEMPT TO MEET THEIR REQUESTS. THE CTLR THEN TOLD US TO INTERCEPT THE SMO 061 DEG INBND. WE STARTED OUR TURN INBND WITH A 25 DEG MAX BANK ANGLE BUT AT THIS POINT THE FMS SHOWED WE WERE ONLY 1.4 MI FROM THE INBND COURSE. AT 335 K, IN FLT LEVEL CHANGE MODE WE OVERSHOT THE TURN IN BY 4.1 MI. THE CTLR COMPLAINED ABOUT OUR BAD OVERSHOOT. THE F/O REPLIED THAT IT WASN'T OUR FAULT SINCE HE HADN'T GIVEN A FAIR SHOT AT MAKING THE ALTS OR INTERCEPT. THIS HAS HAPPENED REPEATEDLY ON THIS FLT THIS IS DAMN SLOPPY CTLING BY LAX CTR. WE HAD A BOEING TWR CTLR ON THE JUMPSEAT THAT HEARD AND OBSERVED THIS INCIDENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.