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Attributes | |
ACN | 1657307 |
Time | |
Date | 201906 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B787 Dreamliner Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 99 Flight Crew Total 1792 Flight Crew Type 1156 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 191 Flight Crew Total 15000 Flight Crew Type 434 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Fuel Issue Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
On arrival to ZZZ while on the published arrival we were issued holding at 2 different fixes. The delay caused us to burn 4000 pounds of fuel over intended remf[remaining fuel] of 16000 pounds. Once on approach we were then expedited to the visual close in approach to xxl. (Aka slam dunk). The final approach was going well until I noticed after requesting flaps 25 degrees that the aircraft was not slowing down. We were now at approximately 1200 feet with flaps 20 and the gear down. I began to investigate and noticed that the landing data print out had slipped down over the last two detents of the flap selection handle. The first officer is relatively new on the aircraft and had inadvertently selected 20 degrees of flap thinking he had selected 25 degrees of flaps. I had already called for 30 degrees of flaps and was having trouble figuring out why the aircraft was not slowing; I was hand flying at the time and my attention was mostly outside of the aircraft. When I noticed that the last two flap detents were covered up by the landing data print out I pushed it aside and noticed that we were at flaps 20 not 30 as I had requested. I quickly pointed this out and he selected 30 degrees of flaps. The reason I did not go around was a quick determination that based on remaining fuel and the current airspace saturation that it might be quite some time before we could execute another approach and landing. This could have led to a critical fuel situation. I did land at ref speed 147 knots and flaps 30 but this did not occur until approximately 700 feet. I had multiple chances to go around but the potential for a low fuel state distracted me from making a more timely and compliant decision. If I encounter a similar situation in the future I will elect to go around and if necessary declare minimum fuel and or declare an emergency and get expedited handling. I will say that at no time did I feel that we were in any danger and the landing was uneventful and in the touchdown zone on speed and fully configured. After fully debriefing the landing with the crew we all agreed that better vvm skills should have been used and had we been given more time for discussion we would have all elected to go around. I believe we all learned a valuable lesson from this event.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B787 Crew reported an unstabilized approach with low fuel. Crew stabilized and elected to land to avoid a fuel critical state.
Narrative: On arrival to ZZZ while on the published arrival we were issued holding at 2 different fixes. The delay caused us to burn 4000 pounds of fuel over intended REMF[Remaining Fuel] of 16000 pounds. Once on approach we were then expedited to the visual close in approach to XXL. (aka slam dunk). The final approach was going well until I noticed after requesting flaps 25 degrees that the aircraft was not slowing down. We were now at approximately 1200 feet with flaps 20 and the gear down. I began to investigate and noticed that the landing data print out had slipped down over the last two detents of the flap selection handle. The FO is relatively new on the aircraft and had inadvertently selected 20 degrees of flap thinking he had selected 25 degrees of flaps. I had already called for 30 degrees of flaps and was having trouble figuring out why the aircraft was not slowing; I was hand flying at the time and my attention was mostly outside of the aircraft. When I noticed that the last two flap detents were covered up by the landing data print out I pushed it aside and noticed that we were at flaps 20 not 30 as I had requested. I quickly pointed this out and he selected 30 degrees of flaps. The reason I did not go around was a quick determination that based on remaining fuel and the current airspace saturation that it might be quite some time before we could execute another approach and landing. This could have led to a critical fuel situation. I did land at ref speed 147 knots and flaps 30 but this did not occur until approximately 700 feet. I had multiple chances to go around but the potential for a low fuel state distracted me from making a more timely and compliant decision. If I encounter a similar situation in the future I will elect to go around and if necessary declare minimum fuel and or declare an emergency and get expedited handling. I will say that at no time did I feel that we were in any danger and the landing was uneventful and in the touchdown zone on speed and fully configured. After fully debriefing the landing with the crew we all agreed that better VVM skills should have been used and had we been given more time for discussion we would have all elected to go around. I believe we all learned a valuable lesson from this event.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.