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Attributes | |
ACN | 167621 |
Time | |
Date | 199101 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bkl |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cle tower : bkl tower : sdf |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 167621 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | other physical facility |
Narrative:
While on a visibility approach into burke lakefront airport a police helicopter reported a near miss with me. I did not ever see him, as they are very hard to see against the lights of the city, and I was looking for my traffic that I was following that tower had just reported to me. Tower did not report that the helicopter was there, nor did cleveland approach who had just handed me off to the tower when this took place. I talked to the tower on the phone after landing to find out where this helicopter was at. They told me they were not sure because he was not in the area where he had last reported being. This airport gets very busy at night with cargo aircraft, I believe that it would solve some problems if there was a bright scope in the tower which they do not have.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: WHILE ON A VIS APCH INTO BURKE LAKEFRONT ARPT A POLICE HELI RPTED A NEAR MISS WITH ME. I DID NOT EVER SEE HIM, AS THEY ARE VERY HARD TO SEE AGAINST THE LIGHTS OF THE CITY, AND I WAS LOOKING FOR MY TFC THAT I WAS FOLLOWING THAT TWR HAD JUST RPTED TO ME. TWR DID NOT RPT THAT THE HELI WAS THERE, NOR DID CLEVELAND APCH WHO HAD JUST HANDED ME OFF TO THE TWR WHEN THIS TOOK PLACE. I TALKED TO THE TWR ON THE PHONE AFTER LNDG TO FIND OUT WHERE THIS HELI WAS AT. THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE NOT SURE BECAUSE HE WAS NOT IN THE AREA WHERE HE HAD LAST RPTED BEING. THIS ARPT GETS VERY BUSY AT NIGHT WITH CARGO ACFT, I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD SOLVE SOME PROBS IF THERE WAS A BRIGHT SCOPE IN THE TWR WHICH THEY DO NOT HAVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.