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Attributes | |
ACN | 1684131 |
Time | |
Date | 201909 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DFW.Airport |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR Boove4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met |
Narrative:
During the BOOVE4 arrival into dfw. We were descending out of 11400 just prior to delmo for 11000. Approach advised us of traffic at our 1 o'clock climbing. Seconds after; we had a traffic advisory from the TCAS that immediately changed to an RA with a climb advisory. Traffic alerts from ATC and TCAS into dfw occur on almost every arrival and departure. The ca (captain) responded to the RA immediately; following the guidance. We observed the aircraft pass behind us and low and then continued to descend on the arrival. Seconds later we received another RA on a separate aircraft. This time we were given no advisory by ATC or TCAS. The ca again followed the RA guidance. All the time we were in between clouds. At this point we noticed that during the RA; we were now at approximately 10500 at delmo. We were then advised by ATC that we were lower than the arrival dictates. We had advised ATC on both occasions of RA. After the situation; it was approximately 10000 before we were able to get the situation under control and start our climb back to 11000. At that point; were given clearance to descend to 6000 and switch frequencies. TCAS and ATC advisories have become a daily occurrence in dfw that I feel should be addressed. After we left for the day (end of trip) the ca was contacted by [operations control] and advised that TRACON would like a call about the occurrence. It is rare to get an RA but even more to have two from two separate aircraft within seconds of each other.traffic congestion in dfw between arrivals and departures. Multiple aircraft in close proximity on ascents and descents.stars and sids should be re-evaluated to not overlap each other in close proximity. Departure aircraft are given 10000 and arrivals are entering the same locations at 11000. The stars and sids have way points that are in very close proximity and with the amount of traffic in dfw; ATC become overworked.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier First Officer reported multiple TAs and RAs during approach to DFW.
Narrative: During the BOOVE4 arrival into DFW. We were descending out of 11400 just prior to DELMO for 11000. Approach advised us of traffic at our 1 o'clock climbing. Seconds after; we had a traffic advisory from the TCAS that immediately changed to an RA with a climb advisory. Traffic alerts from ATC and TCAS into DFW occur on almost every arrival and departure. The CA (Captain) responded to the RA immediately; following the guidance. We observed the aircraft pass behind us and low and then continued to descend on the arrival. Seconds later we received another RA on a separate aircraft. This time we were given no advisory by ATC or TCAS. The CA again followed the RA guidance. All the time we were in between clouds. At this point we noticed that during the RA; we were now at approximately 10500 at DELMO. We were then advised by ATC that we were lower than the arrival dictates. We had advised ATC on both occasions of RA. After the situation; it was approximately 10000 before we were able to get the situation under control and start our climb back to 11000. At that point; were given clearance to descend to 6000 and switch frequencies. TCAS and ATC advisories have become a daily occurrence in DFW that I feel should be addressed. After we left for the day (end of trip) the CA was contacted by [Operations Control] and advised that TRACON would like a call about the occurrence. It is rare to get an RA but even more to have two from two separate aircraft within seconds of each other.Traffic congestion in DFW between arrivals and departures. Multiple aircraft in close proximity on ascents and descents.STARs and SIDs should be re-evaluated to not overlap each other in close proximity. Departure aircraft are given 10000 and arrivals are entering the same locations at 11000. The STARs and SIDs have way points that are in very close proximity and with the amount of traffic in DFW; ATC become overworked.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.