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Attributes | |
ACN | 169182 |
Time | |
Date | 199101 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 169182 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While departing lax on flight (lax-las) on a loop 8 SID, we were delayed somewhat in switching to departure, due to an abnormal pneumatics problem. We delayed our turn to 235 degrees at the shoreline and called our intention to the controller when checked on frequency. His concern was our proximity to parallel traffic off the north runways 24L (we were off 25R). We were TCAS equipped and noted the alerted traffic on our equipment. Visibility contact was maintained until a vector heading was assigned by departure control. I initiated a call to the supervisor on duty on the ground in las, and he seemed receptive to the information I related, but did take my address, phone and certificate #. His concern, of course was our delay in initiating sep from parallel traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW DELAYED CONTACTING DEP CTLR AFTER TKOF LAX. DELAYED TURN TO COMPLY WITH SID.
Narrative: WHILE DEPARTING LAX ON FLT (LAX-LAS) ON A LOOP 8 SID, WE WERE DELAYED SOMEWHAT IN SWITCHING TO DEP, DUE TO AN ABNORMAL PNEUMATICS PROB. WE DELAYED OUR TURN TO 235 DEGS AT THE SHORELINE AND CALLED OUR INTENTION TO THE CTLR WHEN CHKED ON FREQ. HIS CONCERN WAS OUR PROX TO PARALLEL TFC OFF THE N RWYS 24L (WE WERE OFF 25R). WE WERE TCAS EQUIPPED AND NOTED THE ALERTED TFC ON OUR EQUIP. VIS CONTACT WAS MAINTAINED UNTIL A VECTOR HDG WAS ASSIGNED BY DEP CTL. I INITIATED A CALL TO THE SUPVR ON DUTY ON THE GND IN LAS, AND HE SEEMED RECEPTIVE TO THE INFO I RELATED, BUT DID TAKE MY ADDRESS, PHONE AND CERTIFICATE #. HIS CONCERN, OF COURSE WAS OUR DELAY IN INITIATING SEP FROM PARALLEL TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.