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Attributes | |
ACN | 170505 |
Time | |
Date | 199102 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2160 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cle |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 26000 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 170505 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 13452 flight time type : 5371 |
ASRS Report | 170790 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight yyz-cle 22000' 47 NM from cle. Captain PF. Zov cleared flight to cross noles intersection at 10000' 250 KTS, altimeter at cle 2994. Noles intersection is now only 13.5 NM from our position--we are flying an medium large transport, which has engine anti-ice on (high idle power). We had to lower the gear, apply full spoiler deflection and nose the aircraft over at a high rate of descent! We made the crossing restriction. During the descent we ran a descent (preliminary landing checklist) setting the altimeter at 2994 as given by ZOB 13.5 NM before. I switched to the passenger announcement intercom to reassure our passenger that everything was ok. When I returned, we were at 19 NM from cle at 10000' and had just been cleared for an ILS approach to runway 28, maintain 3000' until established on final, slow to 270 KTS for spacing. After established on final approach 7 NM form T/D, approach control asked us to check our altitude. We replied, 3000'. He then asked us to check our altimeter setting and gave us 2911. After resetting our altimeter, we were at 2300' and we should have been at 2700' until FAF. Due to the late descent given by cle, and the associated workload in icing conditions with low WX minimums, the captain and I both had our altimeter set at 2994, the setting given us by the center 47 NM from cle!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW ON MLG SET WRONG ALTIMETER ON APCH TO CLE.
Narrative: FLT YYZ-CLE 22000' 47 NM FROM CLE. CAPT PF. ZOV CLRED FLT TO CROSS NOLES INTXN AT 10000' 250 KTS, ALTIMETER AT CLE 2994. NOLES INTXN IS NOW ONLY 13.5 NM FROM OUR POS--WE ARE FLYING AN MLG, WHICH HAS ENG ANTI-ICE ON (HIGH IDLE PWR). WE HAD TO LOWER THE GEAR, APPLY FULL SPOILER DEFLECTION AND NOSE THE ACFT OVER AT A HIGH RATE OF DSNT! WE MADE THE XING RESTRICTION. DURING THE DSNT WE RAN A DSNT (PRELIMINARY LNDG CHKLIST) SETTING THE ALTIMETER AT 2994 AS GIVEN BY ZOB 13.5 NM BEFORE. I SWITCHED TO THE PAX ANNOUNCEMENT INTERCOM TO REASSURE OUR PAX THAT EVERYTHING WAS OK. WHEN I RETURNED, WE WERE AT 19 NM FROM CLE AT 10000' AND HAD JUST BEEN CLRED FOR AN ILS APCH TO RWY 28, MAINTAIN 3000' UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON FINAL, SLOW TO 270 KTS FOR SPACING. AFTER ESTABLISHED ON FINAL APCH 7 NM FORM T/D, APCH CTL ASKED US TO CHK OUR ALT. WE REPLIED, 3000'. HE THEN ASKED US TO CHK OUR ALTIMETER SETTING AND GAVE US 2911. AFTER RESETTING OUR ALTIMETER, WE WERE AT 2300' AND WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT 2700' UNTIL FAF. DUE TO THE LATE DSNT GIVEN BY CLE, AND THE ASSOCIATED WORKLOAD IN ICING CONDITIONS WITH LOW WX MINIMUMS, THE CAPT AND I BOTH HAD OUR ALTIMETER SET AT 2994, THE SETTING GIVEN US BY THE CENTER 47 NM FROM CLE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.