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Attributes | |
ACN | 171432 |
Time | |
Date | 199102 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ggg |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : alb |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : ggg |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : handoff position |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 4 |
ASRS Report | 171432 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 13500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Small transport X was established on V289 north of GGG VORTAC going to txk. Small aircraft Y was eastbound on V18. The aircraft passed within 2 to 2 1/2 mi of each other. The controller was apparently trying to use the FAA 7110.65E, paragraph 5-73 rule for diverging courses; however, vertical sep was not discontinued because it never existed in the first place. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. In both cases the reporter was working the radar assist (rho) position and it appears he did not 'assist' in at least one of these problems. In first incident there was a delay in getting the light transport on departure control frequency, not sure if flight crew or tower problem, but aircraft should have been stopped at lower altitude or turned. In second case the radar controller was trying to apply diverging course sep, but did not have vertical sep to begin with. Reporter is 4 yr fpl and radar controller in both cases was experienced 'old timer'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN TWO ENROUTE ACFT ON CROSSING COURSES.
Narrative: SMT X WAS ESTABLISHED ON V289 N OF GGG VORTAC GOING TO TXK. SMA Y WAS EBND ON V18. THE ACFT PASSED WITHIN 2 TO 2 1/2 MI OF EACH OTHER. THE CTLR WAS APPARENTLY TRYING TO USE THE FAA 7110.65E, PARAGRAPH 5-73 RULE FOR DIVERGING COURSES; HOWEVER, VERT SEP WAS NOT DISCONTINUED BECAUSE IT NEVER EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. IN BOTH CASES THE RPTR WAS WORKING THE RADAR ASSIST (RHO) POS AND IT APPEARS HE DID NOT 'ASSIST' IN AT LEAST ONE OF THESE PROBS. IN FIRST INCIDENT THERE WAS A DELAY IN GETTING THE LTT ON DEP CTL FREQ, NOT SURE IF FLT CREW OR TWR PROB, BUT ACFT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED AT LOWER ALT OR TURNED. IN SEC CASE THE RADAR CTLR WAS TRYING TO APPLY DIVERGING COURSE SEP, BUT DID NOT HAVE VERT SEP TO BEGIN WITH. RPTR IS 4 YR FPL AND RADAR CTLR IN BOTH CASES WAS EXPERIENCED 'OLD TIMER'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.