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Attributes | |
ACN | 1717891 |
Time | |
Date | 202001 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Other Traffic Pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Commercial |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 90 Flight Crew Total 1300 Flight Crew Type 200 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict NMAC Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 0 Vertical 100 |
Narrative:
I was in the traffic pattern in a C172 with a student pilot; teaching pattern work. I announced 45 degree entry to right downwind runway xx at ZZZ. When we reached the downwind leg; I announced downwind leg. I was startled to hear from aircraft Y that he too was downwind runway xx. I immediately asked him to state your position. He said he was over the freeway. The freeway is about 3 miles from the runway. I told him that the freeway was not in the pattern.moments later; once abeam the numbers to runway xx; I was startled to see aircraft Y go directly underneath us toward the runway; then make a 360 and join the pattern below us.I asked him: 'aircraft Y; what are you doing?' he said; 'I saw you in the pattern so I decided to go below you.' this is highly unsafe practice. He nearly collided with us. Later; he landed on runway xx while we were still on the runway in our landing roll. Someone should reach out to this pilot and provide remedial training. A FAA report has been filed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Flight instructor reported that while on the downwind leg of the traffic pattern; another aircraft flew directly below the instructor's aircraft; performed a 360-degree turn and joined the pattern. That aircraft then proceeded to land on the runway while the instructor was on the landing roll.
Narrative: I was in the traffic pattern in a C172 with a student pilot; teaching pattern work. I announced 45 degree entry to right downwind Runway XX at ZZZ. When we reached the downwind leg; I announced downwind leg. I was startled to hear from Aircraft Y that he too was downwind Runway XX. I immediately asked him to state your position. He said he was over the freeway. The freeway is about 3 miles from the runway. I told him that the freeway was not in the pattern.Moments later; once abeam the numbers to Runway XX; I was startled to see Aircraft Y go directly underneath us toward the runway; then make a 360 and join the pattern below us.I asked him: 'Aircraft Y; what are you doing?' He said; 'I saw you in the pattern so I decided to go below you.' This is highly unsafe practice. He nearly collided with us. Later; he landed on Runway XX while we were still on the runway in our landing roll. Someone should reach out to this pilot and provide remedial training. A FAA report has been filed.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.