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Attributes | |
ACN | 174137 |
Time | |
Date | 199103 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 174137 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9600 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I had air carrier X, large transport depart on a 290 heading and cpr Y an light transport depart on the same heading. Air carrier X turned wide and cpr Y turned tight. Sep decreased to 1.6 mi and 600'. On departure I looked out the window before cpr Y started turn and saw the lights from air carrier X and it appeared as if I'd have sep. Was unable to look at the BRITE radar because of the radar blind spot within 1 1/2 to 2 mi of departure end of runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION FROM CPR Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: I HAD ACR X, LGT DEPART ON A 290 HDG AND CPR Y AN LTT DEPART ON THE SAME HDG. ACR X TURNED WIDE AND CPR Y TURNED TIGHT. SEP DECREASED TO 1.6 MI AND 600'. ON DEP I LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW BEFORE CPR Y STARTED TURN AND SAW THE LIGHTS FROM ACR X AND IT APPEARED AS IF I'D HAVE SEP. WAS UNABLE TO LOOK AT THE BRITE RADAR BECAUSE OF THE RADAR BLIND SPOT WITHIN 1 1/2 TO 2 MI OF DEP END OF RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.