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Attributes | |
ACN | 175866 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6600 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mco |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zoa |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2700 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 175866 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3700 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 175862 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were being stepped down from our cruise altitude. We were just cleared to 7000' followed by a traffic update of 9 O'clock 4 mi 6000'. There was extreme congestion on the approach frequency and many calls were bring stepped on. The extreme congestion caused both crew men to misinterp the call to be a further descent to 6000'. As I tried to read back the clearance I believe I may have been stepped on. Another factor was that I had previously called the traffic in sight, this may have also been stepped on. Much of the time the radio was all squeals. ATC called to ask our altitude, which was 6500' and the problem was resolved. At no time was the traffic a conflict and safety was not compromised. I feel the problem would not have occurred had other aircraft used proper etiquette on the radio. By listening a few seconds before speaking the problem of stepping on other xmissions can be greatly reduced. This is especially important during very high workload portions of flight such as approach. Both the captain and myself understood the clearance to be a descent to 6000', if there had been a doubt we would have reverified the clearance. We were both rested and on the third leg of a 4 leg day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CREW MISINTERPRETS TRAFFIC CALL ALT FOR DESCENT ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING STEPPED DOWN FROM OUR CRUISE ALT. WE WERE JUST CLRED TO 7000' FOLLOWED BY A TFC UPDATE OF 9 O'CLOCK 4 MI 6000'. THERE WAS EXTREME CONGESTION ON THE APCH FREQ AND MANY CALLS WERE BRING STEPPED ON. THE EXTREME CONGESTION CAUSED BOTH CREW MEN TO MISINTERP THE CALL TO BE A FURTHER DSNT TO 6000'. AS I TRIED TO READ BACK THE CLRNC I BELIEVE I MAY HAVE BEEN STEPPED ON. ANOTHER FACTOR WAS THAT I HAD PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE TFC IN SIGHT, THIS MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN STEPPED ON. MUCH OF THE TIME THE RADIO WAS ALL SQUEALS. ATC CALLED TO ASK OUR ALT, WHICH WAS 6500' AND THE PROB WAS RESOLVED. AT NO TIME WAS THE TFC A CONFLICT AND SAFETY WAS NOT COMPROMISED. I FEEL THE PROB WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED HAD OTHER ACFT USED PROPER ETIQUETTE ON THE RADIO. BY LISTENING A FEW SECS BEFORE SPEAKING THE PROB OF STEPPING ON OTHER XMISSIONS CAN BE GREATLY REDUCED. THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT DURING VERY HIGH WORKLOAD PORTIONS OF FLT SUCH AS APCH. BOTH THE CAPT AND MYSELF UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC TO BE A DSNT TO 6000', IF THERE HAD BEEN A DOUBT WE WOULD HAVE REVERIFIED THE CLRNC. WE WERE BOTH RESTED AND ON THE THIRD LEG OF A 4 LEG DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.