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Attributes | |
ACN | 176169 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ric |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 168 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ric tower : ric |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 4100 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 176169 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 176065 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My co captain and I am 99% sure we did not get turned over to the tower by the final controller, and unfortunately preoccupied with the ILS approach. We did not catch the fact that the controller had not turned us over to the tower so we technically landed west/O a clearance by the tower! In the past, I have caught these situations but didn't this time! I called the tower when we got in and spoke to the supervisor, and she said there was no conflict and we were clear to land in abstentia! The purpose of this letter is really to follow up that phone call with our version of the story, and yes, as a cya maneuver! If I was asked to extract a lesson from this, it would be not to lock on to one area or event. No matter how intense a situation gets, you have to keep the big picture in sight! A question I would like to ask is legally whose responsibility is to make sure the aircraft gets handed off to the tower? Is it my responsibility as the PIC of the aircraft to make sure I ask to be turned over to the tower so to get the clearance to land, or assume there may be a reason the approach controller wants me to stay with him? Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter feels as analyst, it is the pilot's responsibility to ensure landing clearance has been given. Had talked with the tower after the incident and was assured no sep problems. In the future will take the initiative to change over to tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LANDED WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: MY CO CAPT AND I AM 99% SURE WE DID NOT GET TURNED OVER TO THE TWR BY THE FINAL CTLR, AND UNFORTUNATELY PREOCCUPIED WITH THE ILS APCH. WE DID NOT CATCH THE FACT THAT THE CTLR HAD NOT TURNED US OVER TO THE TWR SO WE TECHNICALLY LANDED W/O A CLRNC BY THE TWR! IN THE PAST, I HAVE CAUGHT THESE SITUATIONS BUT DIDN'T THIS TIME! I CALLED THE TWR WHEN WE GOT IN AND SPOKE TO THE SUPVR, AND SHE SAID THERE WAS NO CONFLICT AND WE WERE CLR TO LAND IN ABSTENTIA! THE PURPOSE OF THIS LETTER IS REALLY TO FOLLOW UP THAT PHONE CALL WITH OUR VERSION OF THE STORY, AND YES, AS A CYA MANEUVER! IF I WAS ASKED TO EXTRACT A LESSON FROM THIS, IT WOULD BE NOT TO LOCK ON TO ONE AREA OR EVENT. NO MATTER HOW INTENSE A SITUATION GETS, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE BIG PICTURE IN SIGHT! A QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS LEGALLY WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THE ACFT GETS HANDED OFF TO THE TWR? IS IT MY RESPONSIBILITY AS THE PIC OF THE ACFT TO MAKE SURE I ASK TO BE TURNED OVER TO THE TWR SO TO GET THE CLRNC TO LAND, OR ASSUME THERE MAY BE A REASON THE APCH CTLR WANTS ME TO STAY WITH HIM? CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR FEELS AS ANALYST, IT IS THE PLT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE LNDG CLRNC HAS BEEN GIVEN. HAD TALKED WITH THE TWR AFTER THE INCIDENT AND WAS ASSURED NO SEP PROBS. IN THE FUTURE WILL TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO CHANGE OVER TO TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.