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Attributes | |
ACN | 176271 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8700 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 176271 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon advancing power levers the takeoff warning horn sounded. I noticed that the flaps were up and lowered them to takeoff position, during takeoff roll. Flaps were in the takeoff position before rotation. This judgement (to continue rather than abort) was a mistake, but felt it was my only choice. The FAA now violates anyone who aborts and does not return to the gate with a maintenance write-up. I had no write-up. We were distraction while performing the before takeoff checklist. Somehow we missed checking flaps and trim.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG GOT THE TKOF WARNING HORN AS POWER WAS ADVANCED. PIC SAW THAT THE FLAPS WERE NOT IN TKOF POSITION AND PUT THEM IN THE CORRECT POSITION AS THEY CONTINUED THE TKOF. CLAIMS IF HE HAD ABORTED THE TKOF HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO RETURN TO THE BLOCKS WITH A WRITE-UP.
Narrative: UPON ADVANCING PWR LEVERS THE TKOF WARNING HORN SOUNDED. I NOTICED THAT THE FLAPS WERE UP AND LOWERED THEM TO TKOF POS, DURING TKOF ROLL. FLAPS WERE IN THE TKOF POS BEFORE ROTATION. THIS JUDGEMENT (TO CONTINUE RATHER THAN ABORT) WAS A MISTAKE, BUT FELT IT WAS MY ONLY CHOICE. THE FAA NOW VIOLATES ANYONE WHO ABORTS AND DOES NOT RETURN TO THE GATE WITH A MAINT WRITE-UP. I HAD NO WRITE-UP. WE WERE DISTR WHILE PERFORMING THE BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST. SOMEHOW WE MISSED CHKING FLAPS AND TRIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.