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Attributes | |
ACN | 179825 |
Time | |
Date | 199105 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17500 msl bound upper : 17800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 179825 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 75 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While descending to our cleared altitude of 11000', controller called and said he had VFR small aircraft traffic at 17500', less than 1 mi, 12 O'clock, coming straight at us. We were descending out of 17800'. Saw traffic less than 1/2 mi and 300' below. He passed 300' vertical and 50-100' horizontal off the right of our nose. He had started a slight turn when he flashed by. We probably had less than 2 seconds and could tell there would not be a collision and did not do an evasive maneuver. We should not have been cleared to 11000' with the conflicting traffic and/or been warned about him sooner, since not a lot can be done in 2 seconds to avoid another aircraft. It also did not sound like the controller was too busy. The small aircraft also was legal to be where he was, however. Possibly IFR flight may have prevented this occurrence. Also, our aircraft unfortunately was not TCAS equipped. We definitely would have gotten a climb command.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN ACR LGT AND SMA.
Narrative: WHILE DSNDING TO OUR CLRED ALT OF 11000', CTLR CALLED AND SAID HE HAD VFR SMA TFC AT 17500', LESS THAN 1 MI, 12 O'CLOCK, COMING STRAIGHT AT US. WE WERE DSNDING OUT OF 17800'. SAW TFC LESS THAN 1/2 MI AND 300' BELOW. HE PASSED 300' VERT AND 50-100' HORIZ OFF THE RIGHT OF OUR NOSE. HE HAD STARTED A SLIGHT TURN WHEN HE FLASHED BY. WE PROBABLY HAD LESS THAN 2 SECS AND COULD TELL THERE WOULD NOT BE A COLLISION AND DID NOT DO AN EVASIVE MANEUVER. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLRED TO 11000' WITH THE CONFLICTING TFC AND/OR BEEN WARNED ABOUT HIM SOONER, SINCE NOT A LOT CAN BE DONE IN 2 SECS TO AVOID ANOTHER ACFT. IT ALSO DID NOT SOUND LIKE THE CTLR WAS TOO BUSY. THE SMA ALSO WAS LEGAL TO BE WHERE HE WAS, HOWEVER. POSSIBLY IFR FLT MAY HAVE PREVENTED THIS OCCURRENCE. ALSO, OUR ACFT UNFORTUNATELY WAS NOT TCAS EQUIPPED. WE DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A CLB COMMAND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.