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Attributes | |
ACN | 179958 |
Time | |
Date | 199106 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sps |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 41000 msl bound upper : 41000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 179958 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Controller issued holding instructions at last minute. He said, 'hold as published over sps, 20 mi legs.' both first officer and I thought he also said 'right turns.' we built pattern in the FMC--113 degree course northbound to sps, right turns, 20 mi legs. During outbnd leg, closer inspection of patterns over sps showed the published pattern was left turns. Controller was very busy, and since we had less than 1 min or so between the time the instructions were issued to entry, it was difficult to question the controller. As it turned out, once we were able to contact him, he said it didn't matter to him at 41000'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SOME CONFUSION AND CLRNC INTERP PROBLEM HAS DELAYED TRANSFER OF ATC COM GIVEN TO ACR WDB FOR HOLDING PROC.
Narrative: CTLR ISSUED HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS AT LAST MINUTE. HE SAID, 'HOLD AS PUBLISHED OVER SPS, 20 MI LEGS.' BOTH F/O AND I THOUGHT HE ALSO SAID 'RIGHT TURNS.' WE BUILT PATTERN IN THE FMC--113 DEG COURSE NBND TO SPS, RIGHT TURNS, 20 MI LEGS. DURING OUTBND LEG, CLOSER INSPECTION OF PATTERNS OVER SPS SHOWED THE PUBLISHED PATTERN WAS LEFT TURNS. CTLR WAS VERY BUSY, AND SINCE WE HAD LESS THAN 1 MIN OR SO BTWN THE TIME THE INSTRUCTIONS WERE ISSUED TO ENTRY, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO QUESTION THE CTLR. AS IT TURNED OUT, ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO CONTACT HIM, HE SAID IT DIDN'T MATTER TO HIM AT 41000'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.