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Attributes | |
ACN | 180298 |
Time | |
Date | 199105 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : eln |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zse |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 186 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 180298 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This occurred on a long instrument training flight (required for fir rating). Our first stop and approach was the VOR B approach to ellensburg, wa. We flew V2 to ellensburg at 9000' MSL, after reporting to ATC 15 mi west we were cleared to 8000' MSL. Around 10 mi from the VOR we were given clearance for the approach. The WX was clear and we had had the airport in sight for some time. My student began a descent before we reached the VOR. About 3 1/2 from the VOR, center informed us were below the MEA. There had been some confusion as to what altitude we should be at. We immediately began a climb to 8000', and began the approach upon reaching the VOR. In conclusion, a bad decision was made by my student and I allowed it to occur, since we were VFR and at any time in no danger as the WX was clear and the airport was in sight. At the time it seemed a small error, but upon reflection, in worse WX the lower altitude would have been less than ideal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DESCENT FROM MEA ON IFR FLT PLAN WHEN CLEARED FOR APCH BY CENTER CTLR.
Narrative: THIS OCCURRED ON A LONG INSTRUMENT TRNING FLT (REQUIRED FOR FIR RATING). OUR FIRST STOP AND APCH WAS THE VOR B APCH TO ELLENSBURG, WA. WE FLEW V2 TO ELLENSBURG AT 9000' MSL, AFTER RPTING TO ATC 15 MI W WE WERE CLRED TO 8000' MSL. AROUND 10 MI FROM THE VOR WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC FOR THE APCH. THE WX WAS CLR AND WE HAD HAD THE ARPT IN SIGHT FOR SOME TIME. MY STUDENT BEGAN A DSNT BEFORE WE REACHED THE VOR. ABOUT 3 1/2 FROM THE VOR, CENTER INFORMED US WERE BELOW THE MEA. THERE HAD BEEN SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHAT ALT WE SHOULD BE AT. WE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN A CLB TO 8000', AND BEGAN THE APCH UPON REACHING THE VOR. IN CONCLUSION, A BAD DECISION WAS MADE BY MY STUDENT AND I ALLOWED IT TO OCCUR, SINCE WE WERE VFR AND AT ANY TIME IN NO DANGER AS THE WX WAS CLR AND THE ARPT WAS IN SIGHT. AT THE TIME IT SEEMED A SMALL ERROR, BUT UPON REFLECTION, IN WORSE WX THE LOWER ALT WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS THAN IDEAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.