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Attributes | |
ACN | 182213 |
Time | |
Date | 199106 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pdz airport : ont |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 8500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ont |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : ont |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 182213 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : insufficient time other |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Ont approach called traffic 1 O'clock 2 mi at 8000 ft or 8500 ft eastbound. I questioned altitude, and ont approach said you may want to level off. I broke left and called 'it's too late'. Other aircraft, an small transport Y, white/cream stripe, call sign xy. He was almost head on with approximately closure rate of greater than 800 ft per second. He broke to left shortly after I did. Too short a warning from ont approach. Questions: 1) why was small transport Y at 8500 ft/8000 ft eastbound? 2) why was approach's warning so close? 3) why were we given a lower altitude directly in small transport Y's path and through his altitude while we were both under ont approach control?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC. OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC.
Narrative: ONT APCH CALLED TFC 1 O'CLOCK 2 MI AT 8000 FT OR 8500 FT EBOUND. I QUESTIONED ALT, AND ONT APCH SAID YOU MAY WANT TO LEVEL OFF. I BROKE L AND CALLED 'IT'S TOO LATE'. OTHER ACFT, AN SMT Y, WHITE/CREAM STRIPE, CALL SIGN XY. HE WAS ALMOST HEAD ON WITH APPROX CLOSURE RATE OF GREATER THAN 800 FT PER SECOND. HE BROKE TO L SHORTLY AFTER I DID. TOO SHORT A WARNING FROM ONT APCH. QUESTIONS: 1) WHY WAS SMT Y AT 8500 FT/8000 FT EBOUND? 2) WHY WAS APCH'S WARNING SO CLOSE? 3) WHY WERE WE GIVEN A LOWER ALT DIRECTLY IN SMT Y'S PATH AND THROUGH HIS ALT WHILE WE WERE BOTH UNDER ONT APCH CTL?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.