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Attributes | |
ACN | 184688 |
Time | |
Date | 199107 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : smo airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival : profile descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival : profile descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 184688 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During very busy period of IFR arrs approach control issued a clearance to an aircraft (unknown call sign) to 'descend to 2500 ft'. The other airplane read back 'cleared to 1500 ft'. Approach controller missed the error as he was overloaded. I attempted to tell approach controller but transmission was blocked by other xmissions. I was not sure who the wrong clearance was for and wrongfully assumed that mode C readouts would keep everyone ok. I knew there was ceiling of around 1000 ft, and rationalized that a tragedy would not occur. However, the controller did not notice the altitude error until 1500 ft, when the offending air carrier was told to go back to 2500 ft. I learned 2 things. I should have insisted on relaying the error to approach, even if it was me who misunderstood. Also the air carrier didn't read back correctly, terminology wise. ('1500' approach would've probably noticed.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATTEMPTED TO ADVISE CTLR ACFT HAD COPIED CLRED ALT WRONG.
Narrative: DURING VERY BUSY PERIOD OF IFR ARRS APCH CTL ISSUED A CLRNC TO AN ACFT (UNKNOWN CALL SIGN) TO 'DSND TO 2500 FT'. THE OTHER AIRPLANE READ BACK 'CLRED TO 1500 FT'. APCH CTLR MISSED THE ERROR AS HE WAS OVERLOADED. I ATTEMPTED TO TELL APCH CTLR BUT XMISSION WAS BLOCKED BY OTHER XMISSIONS. I WAS NOT SURE WHO THE WRONG CLRNC WAS FOR AND WRONGFULLY ASSUMED THAT MODE C READOUTS WOULD KEEP EVERYONE OK. I KNEW THERE WAS CEILING OF AROUND 1000 FT, AND RATIONALIZED THAT A TRAGEDY WOULD NOT OCCUR. HOWEVER, THE CTLR DID NOT NOTICE THE ALT ERROR UNTIL 1500 FT, WHEN THE OFFENDING ACR WAS TOLD TO GO BACK TO 2500 FT. I LEARNED 2 THINGS. I SHOULD HAVE INSISTED ON RELAYING THE ERROR TO APCH, EVEN IF IT WAS ME WHO MISUNDERSTOOD. ALSO THE ACR DIDN'T READ BACK CORRECTLY, TERMINOLOGY WISE. ('1500' APCH WOULD'VE PROBABLY NOTICED.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.