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Attributes | |
ACN | 184900 |
Time | |
Date | 199107 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : nas |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : nas |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 202 flight time total : 7919 |
ASRS Report | 184900 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was captain of flight from NAS to clt. Shortly after takeoff we were cleared 'on course' and we turned right and intercepted BR65V. While climbing the first officer (who was flying) said he'd like to deviation left of course for a circuit breaker cell we saw maybe 10 mi ahead. Controller was talking nonstop and before I could request a left deviation, the first officer started a left turn, controller was still talking when suddenly she asks us if we are still on course. I said, no, we turned left for WX and that we tried to get a word in edgewise. She was upset, said another aircraft was descending and we would be climbing through his altitude and she issued these clrncs based on our being on course. She also told us to level at 7000 ft to prevent a possible problem (we were going to 12000 I believe) and not to deviation without her permission. I apologized and nothing further was said. We all know we are not supposed to deviation without controller permission, but she talked for quite a long time (with a few replies from another aircraft) and I did not want to fly into that WX. I probably should have squawked 7700 but I kept expecting to be able to advise her.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG TRACK HDG DEV TO AVOID TSTM BUILDUP ON TRACK. CLAIMS THEY COULD NOT ADVISE ATC BECAUSE OF FREQ CONGESTION.
Narrative: I WAS CAPT OF FLT FROM NAS TO CLT. SHORTLY AFTER TKOF WE WERE CLRED 'ON COURSE' AND WE TURNED R AND INTERCEPTED BR65V. WHILE CLBING THE FO (WHO WAS FLYING) SAID HE'D LIKE TO DEV L OF COURSE FOR A CB CELL WE SAW MAYBE 10 MI AHEAD. CTLR WAS TALKING NONSTOP AND BEFORE I COULD REQUEST A L DEV, THE FO STARTED A L TURN, CTLR WAS STILL TALKING WHEN SUDDENLY SHE ASKS US IF WE ARE STILL ON COURSE. I SAID, NO, WE TURNED L FOR WX AND THAT WE TRIED TO GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE. SHE WAS UPSET, SAID ANOTHER ACFT WAS DSNDING AND WE WOULD BE CLBING THROUGH HIS ALT AND SHE ISSUED THESE CLRNCS BASED ON OUR BEING ON COURSE. SHE ALSO TOLD US TO LEVEL AT 7000 FT TO PREVENT A POSSIBLE PROBLEM (WE WERE GOING TO 12000 I BELIEVE) AND NOT TO DEV WITHOUT HER PERMISSION. I APOLOGIZED AND NOTHING FURTHER WAS SAID. WE ALL KNOW WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DEV WITHOUT CTLR PERMISSION, BUT SHE TALKED FOR QUITE A LONG TIME (WITH A FEW REPLIES FROM ANOTHER ACFT) AND I DID NOT WANT TO FLY INTO THAT WX. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SQUAWKED 7700 BUT I KEPT EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO ADVISE HER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.