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Attributes | |
ACN | 546250 |
Time | |
Date | 200205 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdw.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Turbulence |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 546250 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12400 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 546251 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On may/sun/02 at around XA15, we were on climb out out of mdw. There was continuous moderate turbulence on departure as well as cumulonimbus to the west of chicago and heavy traffic. We were on an assigned heading of 270 degrees, FL240. This heading was driving us directly into a fairly menacing cell. We made 4 xmissions requesting a 240 degree heading. On the 4TH, there were various xmissions at the same timed the captain for this trip was in the r-hand seat handling the radios. We heard what appeared to sound like roger to our call sign and heading. We turned to 240 degrees. There was a period of 15-20 seconds where no xmissions from ATC were heard, then ATC gave us a 180 degree heading. We never received any TCASII alerts -- RA or TA. The closest traffic we observed was prior to turning to 180 degree heading. It was at our 2 O'clock position, 1300 ft above, outside the 5 NM ring. I am making this report on may/thu/02. I would have made it earlier, however, there were no indications from either ATC or any other auths that there was a problem until today. Supplemental information from acn 546251: we were departing chicago area en route to phx. There was lots of convective activity in the area, and we were experiencing constant moderate turbulence with some jolts 'beyond moderate.' radar was painting numerous returns. We were on a 270 degree assigned heading, requested and received a 240 degree heading. Shortly thereafter, it was apparent that we needed to turn back right to 270 degrees due to WX to avoid a cell. The frequency had become very busy and at least 3 calls by us to turn back to 270 degrees were not answered. On the 4TH call, the PF and I both heard or thought we heard the controller acknowledge our call and we resumed a 270 degree heading. Shortly after, the controller, obviously agitated, called asking for our heading. We gave it to him and he responded 'negative, negative, you're supposed to be on a 240 degree heading, turn right now to 180 degrees.' at this point we could just clear the cell we had turned to avoid and we turned immediately. During the turn, we saw the other aircraft on TCASII at the 5 mi ring. At no time did we get a TA or RA. We then spotted the other aircraft visually as we turned away to the 180 degree heading. I believe the problem was caused by numerous aircraft trying to avoid some significant WX. The high pilot/controller workload, numerous unanswered radio calls (missed communications) radio xmissions being 'stepped on' by other aircraft, and possibly another aircraft on frequency with some similarity in his call sign. Perhaps if the controller had broadcast an 'all aircraft stand by' it would have cleared the frequency. In our case, the WX, the turbulence, and the absolute need to avoid penetrating a thunderstorm were contributors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GLF5 CREW AVOIDED A TSTM CELL BY TURNING AWAY. THEY TRIED TO COORD THE TURN WITH ATC. TFC VOLUME AND FREQ CONGESTION PREVENTED THIS.
Narrative: ON MAY/SUN/02 AT AROUND XA15, WE WERE ON CLBOUT OUT OF MDW. THERE WAS CONTINUOUS MODERATE TURB ON DEP AS WELL AS CUMULONIMBUS TO THE W OF CHICAGO AND HVY TFC. WE WERE ON AN ASSIGNED HDG OF 270 DEGS, FL240. THIS HDG WAS DRIVING US DIRECTLY INTO A FAIRLY MENACING CELL. WE MADE 4 XMISSIONS REQUESTING A 240 DEG HDG. ON THE 4TH, THERE WERE VARIOUS XMISSIONS AT THE SAME TIMED THE CAPT FOR THIS TRIP WAS IN THE R-HAND SEAT HANDLING THE RADIOS. WE HEARD WHAT APPEARED TO SOUND LIKE ROGER TO OUR CALL SIGN AND HDG. WE TURNED TO 240 DEGS. THERE WAS A PERIOD OF 15-20 SECONDS WHERE NO XMISSIONS FROM ATC WERE HEARD, THEN ATC GAVE US A 180 DEG HDG. WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY TCASII ALERTS -- RA OR TA. THE CLOSEST TFC WE OBSERVED WAS PRIOR TO TURNING TO 180 DEG HDG. IT WAS AT OUR 2 O'CLOCK POS, 1300 FT ABOVE, OUTSIDE THE 5 NM RING. I AM MAKING THIS RPT ON MAY/THU/02. I WOULD HAVE MADE IT EARLIER, HOWEVER, THERE WERE NO INDICATIONS FROM EITHER ATC OR ANY OTHER AUTHS THAT THERE WAS A PROB UNTIL TODAY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 546251: WE WERE DEPARTING CHICAGO AREA ENRTE TO PHX. THERE WAS LOTS OF CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY IN THE AREA, AND WE WERE EXPERIENCING CONSTANT MODERATE TURB WITH SOME JOLTS 'BEYOND MODERATE.' RADAR WAS PAINTING NUMEROUS RETURNS. WE WERE ON A 270 DEG ASSIGNED HDG, REQUESTED AND RECEIVED A 240 DEG HDG. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, IT WAS APPARENT THAT WE NEEDED TO TURN BACK R TO 270 DEGS DUE TO WX TO AVOID A CELL. THE FREQ HAD BECOME VERY BUSY AND AT LEAST 3 CALLS BY US TO TURN BACK TO 270 DEGS WERE NOT ANSWERED. ON THE 4TH CALL, THE PF AND I BOTH HEARD OR THOUGHT WE HEARD THE CTLR ACKNOWLEDGE OUR CALL AND WE RESUMED A 270 DEG HDG. SHORTLY AFTER, THE CTLR, OBVIOUSLY AGITATED, CALLED ASKING FOR OUR HDG. WE GAVE IT TO HIM AND HE RESPONDED 'NEGATIVE, NEGATIVE, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON A 240 DEG HDG, TURN R NOW TO 180 DEGS.' AT THIS POINT WE COULD JUST CLR THE CELL WE HAD TURNED TO AVOID AND WE TURNED IMMEDIATELY. DURING THE TURN, WE SAW THE OTHER ACFT ON TCASII AT THE 5 MI RING. AT NO TIME DID WE GET A TA OR RA. WE THEN SPOTTED THE OTHER ACFT VISUALLY AS WE TURNED AWAY TO THE 180 DEG HDG. I BELIEVE THE PROB WAS CAUSED BY NUMEROUS ACFT TRYING TO AVOID SOME SIGNIFICANT WX. THE HIGH PLT/CTLR WORKLOAD, NUMEROUS UNANSWERED RADIO CALLS (MISSED COMS) RADIO XMISSIONS BEING 'STEPPED ON' BY OTHER ACFT, AND POSSIBLY ANOTHER ACFT ON FREQ WITH SOME SIMILARITY IN HIS CALL SIGN. PERHAPS IF THE CTLR HAD BROADCAST AN 'ALL ACFT STAND BY' IT WOULD HAVE CLRED THE FREQ. IN OUR CASE, THE WX, THE TURB, AND THE ABSOLUTE NEED TO AVOID PENETRATING A TSTM WERE CONTRIBUTORS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.