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Attributes | |
ACN | 186265 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mxf |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18100 msl bound upper : 19000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 58 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 154 |
ASRS Report | 186265 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6700 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On a military training mission with assigned unit NAS pensacola, fl. I was operating a MTR in the capacity of instructor pilot with a student nfo in the backseat. We were on our first leg to maxwell AFB on an out/in. Clearance was to the holding fix lomax. Cleared to descend from FL260 to FL240. Shortly after 3 new altitude clearance 220, 200, 190 and one frequency switch from 290.5 to 297.4. Student was behind and became a contributing factor. Would step on controllers UHF communication. Student's ics would block instructors UHF. Attempting to keep copious notes I got distraction and descended through my assigned altitude of FL190. I remember seeing 18700 on my altimeter. Immediately corrected back to FL190. Controller asked altitude. Responded 300 ft low and immediately corrected back. At that time he gave phone to contact on deck for possible altitude deviation. I found this procedure very nerve racking. I still had to execute an actual approach with the thought of career ending flight violation in the back of my mind! Once on deck spoke to FSDO office. They informed me my mode C triggered a snitch patch, showing 18100. A military 1.8 NM at FL180 assigned, reason for computer alarm. Distrs from my student broke down my scan led to my inaction of not leveling at FL190. Although I don't recall being any lower than 18700 ft. I would recommend changing the procedure for contacting until once safely on deck! It was very nerve racking.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF MTR OVERSHOT DSCNT ALT HAD TFC CONFLICT. VIOLATED BY ARTCC.
Narrative: ON A MIL TRAINING MISSION WITH ASSIGNED UNIT NAS PENSACOLA, FL. I WAS OPERATING A MTR IN THE CAPACITY OF INSTRUCTOR PLT WITH A STUDENT NFO IN THE BACKSEAT. WE WERE ON OUR FIRST LEG TO MAXWELL AFB ON AN OUT/IN. CLRNC WAS TO THE HOLDING FIX LOMAX. CLRED TO DSND FROM FL260 TO FL240. SHORTLY AFTER 3 NEW ALT CLRNC 220, 200, 190 AND ONE FREQ SWITCH FROM 290.5 TO 297.4. STUDENT WAS BEHIND AND BECAME A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. WOULD STEP ON CTLRS UHF COM. STUDENT'S ICS WOULD BLOCK INSTRUCTORS UHF. ATTEMPTING TO KEEP COPIOUS NOTES I GOT DISTR AND DSNDED THROUGH MY ASSIGNED ALT OF FL190. I REMEMBER SEEING 18700 ON MY ALTIMETER. IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED BACK TO FL190. CTLR ASKED ALT. RESPONDED 300 FT LOW AND IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED BACK. AT THAT TIME HE GAVE PHONE TO CONTACT ON DECK FOR POSSIBLE ALT DEV. I FOUND THIS PROC VERY NERVE RACKING. I STILL HAD TO EXECUTE AN ACTUAL APCH WITH THE THOUGHT OF CAREER ENDING FLT VIOLATION IN THE BACK OF MY MIND! ONCE ON DECK SPOKE TO FSDO OFFICE. THEY INFORMED ME MY MODE C TRIGGERED A SNITCH PATCH, SHOWING 18100. A MIL 1.8 NM AT FL180 ASSIGNED, REASON FOR COMPUTER ALARM. DISTRS FROM MY STUDENT BROKE DOWN MY SCAN LED TO MY INACTION OF NOT LEVELING AT FL190. ALTHOUGH I DON'T RECALL BEING ANY LOWER THAN 18700 FT. I WOULD RECOMMEND CHANGING THE PROC FOR CONTACTING UNTIL ONCE SAFELY ON DECK! IT WAS VERY NERVE RACKING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.