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Attributes | |
ACN | 186359 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : shv |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 800 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : shv tower : sna |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | landing : go around |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 16500 flight time type : 2600 |
ASRS Report | 186359 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 186513 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Mlt shooting touch and go on runway 14. I timed 2 min on his takeoff and called tower for takeoff. Cleared for immediate takeoff. Released brakes, taxied on to the runway after checking for traffic, completed the before takeoff checklist and took off. At acceleration altitude, nose was lowered, TCASII announced 'traffic' and an small transport Y passed directly overhead at high speed, banked right and climbed. I complained to the tower and was advised that they had us both in sight. Small transport Y flight had been issued a go around due to the fact that tower felt that we didn't roll fast enough. Since we were above 500 ft by the time small transport Y reached our position, (cleaned up and fast), I feel that his spacing on landing must have been more than adequate. I also feel that the small transport Y pilot was expressing his irritation at being 'sent around' by his close proximity pass. I am sorry about his inconvenience, but I do not feel that reckless operation was justified. Supplemental information from acn 186513. We were cleared for immediate takeoff. Traffic on final was in sight. We pulled out onto the runway and as we did so, before we were even pointed down the runway, the other aircraft announced, we're ready for a go around.' almost immediately, the controller said, 'go around'. I flew the takeoff and lowered the nose as we passed through acceleration height (500 ft AGL). Very shortly thereafter, I heard the captain utter an expletive. I looked up and saw an small transport Y which had passed directly above us and certainly within 500 ft of us. In my opinion, if we had not recently reduced our pitch attitude, the probability of a midair collision would have been extremely great. In a brief discussion with the controller, he exhibited little concern, citing that he had both of us in sight at all times. I wondered why the other aircraft went around so early. Perhaps the controller was confused and believed that the other aircraft requested a far. There is no question in my mind that the other aircraft had ample room to safely land behind us. This is affirmed by the fact that he began his go around (ie began accelerating) before we were aligned with the runway and he did not overtake us until after we completed our second segment climb. The problem here is that the small transport Y executed an improper go around procedure. I expected him to offset and fly parallel to the runway and avoid flying directly over us. He did not do that. I expected that, as a turbine aircraft, he would have climbed to 1500 ft AGL. He did not do that. If he executed the published missed approach procedure, he would initially have climbed to 2000 ft. He didn't do that either.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN MDT ON TKOF CLB AND SMT ON GAR.
Narrative: MLT SHOOTING TOUCH AND GO ON RWY 14. I TIMED 2 MIN ON HIS TKOF AND CALLED TWR FOR TKOF. CLRED FOR IMMEDIATE TKOF. RELEASED BRAKES, TAXIED ON TO THE RWY AFTER CHKING FOR TFC, COMPLETED THE BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST AND TOOK OFF. AT ACCELERATION ALT, NOSE WAS LOWERED, TCASII ANNOUNCED 'TFC' AND AN SMT Y PASSED DIRECTLY OVERHEAD AT HIGH SPD, BANKED R AND CLBED. I COMPLAINED TO THE TWR AND WAS ADVISED THAT THEY HAD US BOTH IN SIGHT. SMT Y FLT HAD BEEN ISSUED A GAR DUE TO THE FACT THAT TWR FELT THAT WE DIDN'T ROLL FAST ENOUGH. SINCE WE WERE ABOVE 500 FT BY THE TIME SMT Y REACHED OUR POS, (CLEANED UP AND FAST), I FEEL THAT HIS SPACING ON LNDG MUST HAVE BEEN MORE THAN ADEQUATE. I ALSO FEEL THAT THE SMT Y PLT WAS EXPRESSING HIS IRRITATION AT BEING 'SENT AROUND' BY HIS CLOSE PROX PASS. I AM SORRY ABOUT HIS INCONVENIENCE, BUT I DO NOT FEEL THAT RECKLESS OP WAS JUSTIFIED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 186513. WE WERE CLRED FOR IMMEDIATE TKOF. TFC ON FINAL WAS IN SIGHT. WE PULLED OUT ONTO THE RWY AND AS WE DID SO, BEFORE WE WERE EVEN POINTED DOWN THE RWY, THE OTHER ACFT ANNOUNCED, WE'RE READY FOR A GAR.' ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, THE CTLR SAID, 'GAR'. I FLEW THE TKOF AND LOWERED THE NOSE AS WE PASSED THROUGH ACCELERATION HEIGHT (500 FT AGL). VERY SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I HEARD THE CAPT UTTER AN EXPLETIVE. I LOOKED UP AND SAW AN SMT Y WHICH HAD PASSED DIRECTLY ABOVE US AND CERTAINLY WITHIN 500 FT OF US. IN MY OPINION, IF WE HAD NOT RECENTLY REDUCED OUR PITCH ATTITUDE, THE PROBABILITY OF A MIDAIR COLLISION WOULD HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY GREAT. IN A BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH THE CTLR, HE EXHIBITED LITTLE CONCERN, CITING THAT HE HAD BOTH OF US IN SIGHT AT ALL TIMES. I WONDERED WHY THE OTHER ACFT WENT AROUND SO EARLY. PERHAPS THE CTLR WAS CONFUSED AND BELIEVED THAT THE OTHER ACFT REQUESTED A FAR. THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT THE OTHER ACFT HAD AMPLE ROOM TO SAFELY LAND BEHIND US. THIS IS AFFIRMED BY THE FACT THAT HE BEGAN HIS GAR (IE BEGAN ACCELERATING) BEFORE WE WERE ALIGNED WITH THE RWY AND HE DID NOT OVERTAKE US UNTIL AFTER WE COMPLETED OUR SECOND SEGMENT CLB. THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE SMT Y EXECUTED AN IMPROPER GAR PROC. I EXPECTED HIM TO OFFSET AND FLY PARALLEL TO THE RWY AND AVOID FLYING DIRECTLY OVER US. HE DID NOT DO THAT. I EXPECTED THAT, AS A TURBINE ACFT, HE WOULD HAVE CLBED TO 1500 FT AGL. HE DID NOT DO THAT. IF HE EXECUTED THE PUBLISHED MISSED APCH PROC, HE WOULD INITIALLY HAVE CLBED TO 2000 FT. HE DIDN'T DO THAT EITHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.