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Attributes | |
ACN | 187672 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 5760 |
ASRS Report | 187672 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On approach to sjc, 30L, at 3000 ft we had been cleared visual approach to 30L a few mi prior when we were instructed to discontinue the approach, turn to an east heading and climb to 4000 ft. The controller seemed to be greatly overloaded coordinating instructions to numerous aircraft. There was confusion between the controller and someone else concerning a TACAN approach at moffett. Off to our right was a commuter aircraft heading towards san jose. It appeared that in his concern with coordinating other approachs and aircraft, our approach wouldn't fit in. The nearby hills became a terrain factor just as he then issued a heading (right turn) to 210 degree and simultaneously asked us if we had a visual on the airport. I believe that the south part of our ground track as we completed a turn back toward the airport resulted in less than MVA and possibly less than 1000 AGL. I believe he desperately wanted us to say yes as to absolve him of vectoring altitude requirements. We did not tell him we had visual contact until through about a 170 degree heading.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG ASKED TO DISCONTINUE APCH, VECTORED TOWARD HIGH TERRAIN, POSSIBLY BELOW MVA.
Narrative: ON APCH TO SJC, 30L, AT 3000 FT WE HAD BEEN CLRED VISUAL APCH TO 30L A FEW MI PRIOR WHEN WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO DISCONTINUE THE APCH, TURN TO AN E HDG AND CLB TO 4000 FT. THE CTLR SEEMED TO BE GREATLY OVERLOADED COORDINATING INSTRUCTIONS TO NUMEROUS ACFT. THERE WAS CONFUSION BTWN THE CTLR AND SOMEONE ELSE CONCERNING A TACAN APCH AT MOFFETT. OFF TO OUR R WAS A COMMUTER ACFT HDG TOWARDS SAN JOSE. IT APPEARED THAT IN HIS CONCERN WITH COORDINATING OTHER APCHS AND ACFT, OUR APCH WOULDN'T FIT IN. THE NEARBY HILLS BECAME A TERRAIN FACTOR JUST AS HE THEN ISSUED A HDG (R TURN) TO 210 DEG AND SIMULTANEOUSLY ASKED US IF WE HAD A VISUAL ON THE ARPT. I BELIEVE THAT THE S PART OF OUR GND TRACK AS WE COMPLETED A TURN BACK TOWARD THE ARPT RESULTED IN LESS THAN MVA AND POSSIBLY LESS THAN 1000 AGL. I BELIEVE HE DESPERATELY WANTED US TO SAY YES AS TO ABSOLVE HIM OF VECTORING ALT REQUIREMENTS. WE DID NOT TELL HIM WE HAD VISUAL CONTACT UNTIL THROUGH ABOUT A 170 DEG HDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.