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Attributes | |
ACN | 190354 |
Time | |
Date | 199109 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 1j9 |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx tracon : pns tower : dfw |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 830 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 190354 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Sign at end of runway said IFR departures contact 127.7 for clearance. I did. I was cleared 'as filed, contact 120.9 after departure.' I took off (unicom field) called 120.9 and said with you at 300 ft. Controller said 'you're not cleared.' I said I contacted 120.9 as instructed when airborne. She said I should have contacted them (120.9) before takeoff. I said I was doing as instructed by 127.7. She seemed more interested in lecturing me, instead of clearing up the confusion. If I was not cleared in her mind, a simple 'remain VFR, awaiting clearance' would have been simple, considering conditions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT HAS CLRNC INTERP PROBLEM AND PERFORMS TKOF FROM NON TWR ARPT UNICOM PRIOR TO ATC CLRNC BEING ACTIVATED RELEASE TIME.
Narrative: SIGN AT END OF RWY SAID IFR DEPS CONTACT 127.7 FOR CLRNC. I DID. I WAS CLRED 'AS FILED, CONTACT 120.9 AFTER DEP.' I TOOK OFF (UNICOM FIELD) CALLED 120.9 AND SAID WITH YOU AT 300 FT. CTLR SAID 'YOU'RE NOT CLRED.' I SAID I CONTACTED 120.9 AS INSTRUCTED WHEN AIRBORNE. SHE SAID I SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED THEM (120.9) BEFORE TKOF. I SAID I WAS DOING AS INSTRUCTED BY 127.7. SHE SEEMED MORE INTERESTED IN LECTURING ME, INSTEAD OF CLRING UP THE CONFUSION. IF I WAS NOT CLRED IN HER MIND, A SIMPLE 'REMAIN VFR, AWAITING CLRNC' WOULD HAVE BEEN SIMPLE, CONSIDERING CONDITIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.