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Attributes | |
ACN | 191553 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9400 msl bound upper : 9600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zoa |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 191553 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 191183 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was working as the first officer on flight from sfo to ord on oct/sun/91. On the climb out we were on a 038 heading to sac VOR on the 218 radial, 18 DME, climbed to 9600 ft. TCASII advised traffic, traffic. I then positioned TCASII on the 10 mi range from 20 mi and saw target at 12:30/-02 ft. Immediately we got the TCASII climb, climb. The captain (flying) pulled back to approximately 2000-2500 FPM till we received the monitor vertical speed. The so saw a low wing twin pass by our 1:30-2 O'clock position. We then asked ATC about that traffic and their response was they saw what they called a pop-up traffic at 9400 ft (then disappeared). I believe the light twin was flying in the TCA without calling anyone at 9400 ft. When he saw us he then pitched down and turned his transponder (off or stand by). I believe had we not had TCASII there would have been a possibility of contact. TCASII should be enforced on all aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT IN CLB HAD NMAC WITH SMT TWIN.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING AS THE FO ON FLT FROM SFO TO ORD ON OCT/SUN/91. ON THE CLBOUT WE WERE ON A 038 HDG TO SAC VOR ON THE 218 RADIAL, 18 DME, CLBED TO 9600 FT. TCASII ADVISED TFC, TFC. I THEN POSITIONED TCASII ON THE 10 MI RANGE FROM 20 MI AND SAW TARGET AT 12:30/-02 FT. IMMEDIATELY WE GOT THE TCASII CLB, CLB. THE CAPT (FLYING) PULLED BACK TO APPROX 2000-2500 FPM TILL WE RECEIVED THE MONITOR VERT SPD. THE SO SAW A LOW WING TWIN PASS BY OUR 1:30-2 O'CLOCK POS. WE THEN ASKED ATC ABOUT THAT TFC AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS THEY SAW WHAT THEY CALLED A POP-UP TFC AT 9400 FT (THEN DISAPPEARED). I BELIEVE THE LIGHT TWIN WAS FLYING IN THE TCA WITHOUT CALLING ANYONE AT 9400 FT. WHEN HE SAW US HE THEN PITCHED DOWN AND TURNED HIS TRANSPONDER (OFF OR STAND BY). I BELIEVE HAD WE NOT HAD TCASII THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A POSSIBILITY OF CONTACT. TCASII SHOULD BE ENFORCED ON ALL ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.