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Attributes | |
ACN | 193677 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : buj |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 5500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 193677 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 193682 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
A target popped up on the TCASII screen. We got the TA followed by about 2 seconds later by an RA. ATC was trying to issue instructions, but the warning voice from TCASII was so loud we could not hear the controller. We told the controller to stand by because we were reacting to a TCASII TA/RA. This is in direct compliance with our operating manual. After the incident, the controller made the comment that we should review our procedure for we should have reacted to his instructions and not the RA command of our TCASII. This would be in direct conflict with our operating manual. It is my opinion that controllers should be instructed on TCASII as to how and why it works and the pilot's responsibility to its commands. Also the aural warning on our aircraft is too loud. As in this case we could not hear the controller even though we had headsets on.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII RA CREATES AN ALTDEV ALT UNDERSHOT OVERSHOT BY PIC.
Narrative: A TARGET POPPED UP ON THE TCASII SCREEN. WE GOT THE TA FOLLOWED BY ABOUT 2 SECONDS LATER BY AN RA. ATC WAS TRYING TO ISSUE INSTRUCTIONS, BUT THE WARNING VOICE FROM TCASII WAS SO LOUD WE COULD NOT HEAR THE CTLR. WE TOLD THE CTLR TO STAND BY BECAUSE WE WERE REACTING TO A TCASII TA/RA. THIS IS IN DIRECT COMPLIANCE WITH OUR OPERATING MANUAL. AFTER THE INCIDENT, THE CTLR MADE THE COMMENT THAT WE SHOULD REVIEW OUR PROC FOR WE SHOULD HAVE REACTED TO HIS INSTRUCTIONS AND NOT THE RA COMMAND OF OUR TCASII. THIS WOULD BE IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH OUR OPERATING MANUAL. IT IS MY OPINION THAT CTLRS SHOULD BE INSTRUCTED ON TCASII AS TO HOW AND WHY IT WORKS AND THE PLT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ITS COMMANDS. ALSO THE AURAL WARNING ON OUR ACFT IS TOO LOUD. AS IN THIS CASE WE COULD NOT HEAR THE CTLR EVEN THOUGH WE HAD HEADSETS ON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.