Air carrier medium large transport runway transgression unauthorized entry.

Attributes
ACN	194346
Time
Date	199111
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : dfw
State Reference	TX
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : bil
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	194346
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 100 vertical : 100
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were holding short of dfw 17R for takeoff clearance. I was conducting a first officer IOE training and this was the first leg. Dfw tower called us stating that in trail separation was needed and 'other' verbiage. I started taxi, crossing hold short line. First officer hesitated, then stated we do not have clearance into position. There was landing traffic on 17R. I stopped! Traffic landed and we were cleared for takeoff. Advisory communication by tower was confused by me as position and hold for traffic separation. Once again, complacency and non standard operations.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG RWY TRANSGRESSION UNAUTH ENTRY.

Narrative: WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF DFW 17R FOR TKOF CLRNC. I WAS CONDUCTING A FO IOE TRAINING AND THIS WAS THE FIRST LEG. DFW TWR CALLED US STATING THAT IN TRAIL SEPARATION WAS NEEDED AND 'OTHER' VERBIAGE. I STARTED TAXI, XING HOLD SHORT LINE. FO HESITATED, THEN STATED WE DO NOT HAVE CLRNC INTO POS. THERE WAS LNDG TFC ON 17R. I STOPPED! TFC LANDED AND WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF. ADVISORY COM BY TWR WAS CONFUSED BY ME AS POS AND HOLD FOR TFC SEPARATION. ONCE AGAIN, COMPLACENCY AND NON STANDARD OPS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.