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Air carrier large transport accepted a route change that involved extended over water operation in an aircraft not properly equipped for extended over water operation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 194397 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199111 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cew |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 195 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 194397 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were en route from lax to mia. We had been cleared direct to cew, flight plan route. Prior to cew, we were asked if we wanted direct to pie. I asked them to stand by and I checked a letter we had received from our company. I saw that rtes J58 and J86 were acceptable airways, so I told the center we could take direct pie. After changing the route and check points, I took another look at the letter and discovered this letter only applied to over water aircraft. We were not over water equipped. By this time we were out far enough that pie was closer than any other point. The obvious corrective action is to take the time to read the entire letter. Never rush the decision and attempt to cover the entire situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT ACCEPTED A RTE CHANGE THAT INVOLVED EXTENDED OVER WATER OP IN AN ACFT NOT PROPERLY EQUIPPED FOR EXTENDED OVER WATER OP.
Narrative: WE WERE ENRTE FROM LAX TO MIA. WE HAD BEEN CLRED DIRECT TO CEW, FLT PLAN RTE. PRIOR TO CEW, WE WERE ASKED IF WE WANTED DIRECT TO PIE. I ASKED THEM TO STAND BY AND I CHKED A LETTER WE HAD RECEIVED FROM OUR COMPANY. I SAW THAT RTES J58 AND J86 WERE ACCEPTABLE AIRWAYS, SO I TOLD THE CENTER WE COULD TAKE DIRECT PIE. AFTER CHANGING THE RTE AND CHK POINTS, I TOOK ANOTHER LOOK AT THE LETTER AND DISCOVERED THIS LETTER ONLY APPLIED TO OVER WATER ACFT. WE WERE NOT OVER WATER EQUIPPED. BY THIS TIME WE WERE OUT FAR ENOUGH THAT PIE WAS CLOSER THAN ANY OTHER POINT. THE OBVIOUS CORRECTIVE ACTION IS TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE ENTIRE LETTER. NEVER RUSH THE DECISION AND ATTEMPT TO COVER THE ENTIRE SITUATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.