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Attributes | |
ACN | 194622 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phf |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : phf |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 194622 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac inflight encounter : weather |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
First flight for low time commercial multi-engine instrument rated pilot receiving turboprop training in small transport. ATIS at flight planning was 2300 ft scattered, estimated 5000 ft broken, 10 mi, so instructor decided to go VFR for ease of air work and practice approachs at nearby uncontrolled airport. As we taxied to the hold short line, an small aircraft rolled on takeoff. We completed the takeoff checklist, discussed the takeoff procedures and techniques and rolled 2-3 mins after the small aircraft. The student had his hands full with his first takeoff in a turboprop airplane. Flew normal crosswind and tower cleared us for a wide downwind departure on course. Tower did not mention the small aircraft traffic on our takeoff or 'on course' clearance. New ATIS issued 4 mins after the incident was 2000 ft scattered, 2300 ft overcast, 7 light drizzle and rain. On crosswind we encountered deteriorating visibility in rain and lower than expected ceiling. Tower called traffic at 1 O'clock and 1 mi. It was actually probably at 2 O'clock in our turn and high obscured by the wing. Student in right seat was so busy flying the airplane he was not much help in looking. Second student in cabin was looking hard but could not find traffic. Small aircraft crossed our nose on 45 degree converging course from right to left at our altitude. He was on an IFR flight plan and had gotten a late turn on course to the same fix we were heading for. Tower should have advised us of slower traffic taking off in front of us. Instructor should have recognized deteriorating conditions and filed an IFR flight plan. IFR small aircraft should have been keeping a better look out in VMC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX 2 GA ACFT IN PHF ATA.
Narrative: FIRST FLT FOR LOW TIME COMMERCIAL MULTI-ENG INST RATED PLT RECEIVING TURBOPROP TRAINING IN SMT. ATIS AT FLT PLANNING WAS 2300 FT SCATTERED, ESTIMATED 5000 FT BROKEN, 10 MI, SO INSTRUCTOR DECIDED TO GO VFR FOR EASE OF AIR WORK AND PRACTICE APCHS AT NEARBY UNCTLED ARPT. AS WE TAXIED TO THE HOLD SHORT LINE, AN SMA ROLLED ON TKOF. WE COMPLETED THE TKOF CHKLIST, DISCUSSED THE TKOF PROCS AND TECHNIQUES AND ROLLED 2-3 MINS AFTER THE SMA. THE STUDENT HAD HIS HANDS FULL WITH HIS FIRST TKOF IN A TURBOPROP AIRPLANE. FLEW NORMAL XWIND AND TWR CLRED US FOR A WIDE DOWNWIND DEP ON COURSE. TWR DID NOT MENTION THE SMA TFC ON OUR TKOF OR 'ON COURSE' CLRNC. NEW ATIS ISSUED 4 MINS AFTER THE INCIDENT WAS 2000 FT SCATTERED, 2300 FT OVCST, 7 LIGHT DRIZZLE AND RAIN. ON XWIND WE ENCOUNTERED DETERIORATING VISIBILITY IN RAIN AND LOWER THAN EXPECTED CEILING. TWR CALLED TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK AND 1 MI. IT WAS ACTUALLY PROBABLY AT 2 O'CLOCK IN OUR TURN AND HIGH OBSCURED BY THE WING. STUDENT IN R SEAT WAS SO BUSY FLYING THE AIRPLANE HE WAS NOT MUCH HELP IN LOOKING. SECOND STUDENT IN CABIN WAS LOOKING HARD BUT COULD NOT FIND TFC. SMA CROSSED OUR NOSE ON 45 DEG CONVERGING COURSE FROM R TO L AT OUR ALT. HE WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN AND HAD GOTTEN A LATE TURN ON COURSE TO THE SAME FIX WE WERE HDG FOR. TWR SHOULD HAVE ADVISED US OF SLOWER TFC TAKING OFF IN FRONT OF US. INSTRUCTOR SHOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED DETERIORATING CONDITIONS AND FILED AN IFR FLT PLAN. IFR SMA SHOULD HAVE BEEN KEEPING A BETTER LOOK OUT IN VMC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.