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Attributes | |
ACN | 197708 |
Time | |
Date | 199112 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gbn |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v94 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 23 flight time total : 1226 flight time type : 1136 |
ASRS Report | 197708 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying my small aircraft from tx to ca with my wife and 2 daughters. I was following V94 on an IFR flight plan from midland, tx, to blythe, ca, at 10000 ft MSL. About 30 mi northwest of gila bend VORTAC, I was approaching a cloud deck that at first appeared to be below me. The outside air temperature was 25 degrees F. The cloud layer may have been rising as I approached and I entered it. The cloud contained supercooled moisture and clear ice began to form on the airframe. I called ZAB and told them of my situation and asked for 12000 ft. Center cleared me immediately to 11000 ft but said that an small aircraft B was behind me at 12000 ft and I would have to wait for higher. I began the climb and as I reached 11000 ft I saw the small aircraft B pass over through a hole in the cloud. I was climbing at about 90 KTS and the small aircraft B in cruise was probably going over 160. It was imperative that I continue to climb before the ice made it impossible. Since the traffic was no longer a factor I continued to climb. At 11500 ft center asked me to verify that I was at 11000 ft. I replied that I was at 11500 ft and center asked if I wanted to cancel IFR. I replied negative and that I needed to continue the climb to 12000 ft. Center replied that I couldn't because of the required 5 mi spacing. Center finally gave me a vector to turn me away from the now long gone small aircraft B and I ultimately got to 12000 ft and out of the problem. I understand center's concern with the 5 mi spacing because that is their rule. In normal circumstances it is a good rule and I have no problem with it. In some situations, however, such as the one I was in, I believe that center should have some latitude to make exceptions. It is not reasonable to enforce a 'rule' to the point of causing a plane crash claiming the lives of 4 people! While I remember the event vividly I cannot remember exactly my communications with center. I feel sure, however, that I told them of the small aircraft B passing overhead at the time it happened. Assuming it took me 4 mins to climb from 11000 ft to 12000 ft and the small aircraft B was going 80 mph faster than I, it would have been 5.3 mi from me when I reached 12000 ft. 'Rules' should not be permitted to interfere with thinking!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF IFR FLT CLBS ABOVE ASSIGNED WITHOUT CLRNC DUE TO ICING.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING MY SMA FROM TX TO CA WITH MY WIFE AND 2 DAUGHTERS. I WAS FOLLOWING V94 ON AN IFR FLT PLAN FROM MIDLAND, TX, TO BLYTHE, CA, AT 10000 FT MSL. ABOUT 30 MI NW OF GILA BEND VORTAC, I WAS APCHING A CLOUD DECK THAT AT FIRST APPEARED TO BE BELOW ME. THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMP WAS 25 DEGS F. THE CLOUD LAYER MAY HAVE BEEN RISING AS I APCHED AND I ENTERED IT. THE CLOUD CONTAINED SUPERCOOLED MOISTURE AND CLR ICE BEGAN TO FORM ON THE AIRFRAME. I CALLED ZAB AND TOLD THEM OF MY SITUATION AND ASKED FOR 12000 FT. CENTER CLRED ME IMMEDIATELY TO 11000 FT BUT SAID THAT AN SMA B WAS BEHIND ME AT 12000 FT AND I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR HIGHER. I BEGAN THE CLB AND AS I REACHED 11000 FT I SAW THE SMA B PASS OVER THROUGH A HOLE IN THE CLOUD. I WAS CLBING AT ABOUT 90 KTS AND THE SMA B IN CRUISE WAS PROBABLY GOING OVER 160. IT WAS IMPERATIVE THAT I CONTINUE TO CLB BEFORE THE ICE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE. SINCE THE TFC WAS NO LONGER A FACTOR I CONTINUED TO CLB. AT 11500 FT CENTER ASKED ME TO VERIFY THAT I WAS AT 11000 FT. I REPLIED THAT I WAS AT 11500 FT AND CENTER ASKED IF I WANTED TO CANCEL IFR. I REPLIED NEGATIVE AND THAT I NEEDED TO CONTINUE THE CLB TO 12000 FT. CENTER REPLIED THAT I COULDN'T BECAUSE OF THE REQUIRED 5 MI SPACING. CENTER FINALLY GAVE ME A VECTOR TO TURN ME AWAY FROM THE NOW LONG GONE SMA B AND I ULTIMATELY GOT TO 12000 FT AND OUT OF THE PROBLEM. I UNDERSTAND CENTER'S CONCERN WITH THE 5 MI SPACING BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR RULE. IN NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES IT IS A GOOD RULE AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. IN SOME SITUATIONS, HOWEVER, SUCH AS THE ONE I WAS IN, I BELIEVE THAT CENTER SHOULD HAVE SOME LATITUDE TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS. IT IS NOT REASONABLE TO ENFORCE A 'RULE' TO THE POINT OF CAUSING A PLANE CRASH CLAIMING THE LIVES OF 4 PEOPLE! WHILE I REMEMBER THE EVENT VIVIDLY I CANNOT REMEMBER EXACTLY MY COMS WITH CENTER. I FEEL SURE, HOWEVER, THAT I TOLD THEM OF THE SMA B PASSING OVERHEAD AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED. ASSUMING IT TOOK ME 4 MINS TO CLB FROM 11000 FT TO 12000 FT AND THE SMA B WAS GOING 80 MPH FASTER THAN I, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 5.3 MI FROM ME WHEN I REACHED 12000 FT. 'RULES' SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO INTERFERE WITH THINKING!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.