Unauthorized penetration of airspace.

Attributes
ACN	199993
Time
Date	199201
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sna airport : lgb
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ont tracon : sna
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 600 flight time type : 600
ASRS Report	199993
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : exited penetrated airspace
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was doing a diversion exercise with my student on the north side of sna arsa above the 91 freeway. He chose to take as ground reference point a small lake at the northeast edge of the arsa in order to give me heading and time to the diversion point which was orange county airport. After he gave me heading 210 degree and time estimated at 6 mins he began his process. We were at 3000 ft MSL. I knew he was going through the arsa. I waited a little bit hoping he will realize it and change his heading. I then told him and we exited the arsa. But when we landed we had to call orange county tower. I then realized we were just in the path of orange county ILS and then we made a big mess. I take the total responsibility in this mistake and I realize being a CFI I should have never let my student enter in the arsa with the hope he would realize the error. Student only admit their errors and mistakes when they are actually doing them. Nevertheless, nobody should ever violate an airspace consciously and I will never let my student do it again -- experiences are sometimes the result of mistakes.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: UNAUTH PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE.

Narrative: I WAS DOING A DIVERSION EXERCISE WITH MY STUDENT ON THE N SIDE OF SNA ARSA ABOVE THE 91 FREEWAY. HE CHOSE TO TAKE AS GND REF POINT A SMALL LAKE AT THE NE EDGE OF THE ARSA IN ORDER TO GIVE ME HDG AND TIME TO THE DIVERSION POINT WHICH WAS ORANGE COUNTY ARPT. AFTER HE GAVE ME HDG 210 DEG AND TIME ESTIMATED AT 6 MINS HE BEGAN HIS PROCESS. WE WERE AT 3000 FT MSL. I KNEW HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE ARSA. I WAITED A LITTLE BIT HOPING HE WILL REALIZE IT AND CHANGE HIS HDG. I THEN TOLD HIM AND WE EXITED THE ARSA. BUT WHEN WE LANDED WE HAD TO CALL ORANGE COUNTY TWR. I THEN REALIZED WE WERE JUST IN THE PATH OF ORANGE COUNTY ILS AND THEN WE MADE A BIG MESS. I TAKE THE TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS MISTAKE AND I REALIZE BEING A CFI I SHOULD HAVE NEVER LET MY STUDENT ENTER IN THE ARSA WITH THE HOPE HE WOULD REALIZE THE ERROR. STUDENT ONLY ADMIT THEIR ERRORS AND MISTAKES WHEN THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING THEM. NEVERTHELESS, NOBODY SHOULD EVER VIOLATE AN AIRSPACE CONSCIOUSLY AND I WILL NEVER LET MY STUDENT DO IT AGAIN -- EXPERIENCES ARE SOMETIMES THE RESULT OF MISTAKES.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.