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Attributes | |
ACN | 200851 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sat |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 9100 |
ASRS Report | 200851 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Landed runway 3 sat. Cleared to clear runway, call ground control. We exited taxiway D. I called ground but didn't get a reply. The captain made a left hand turn onto taxiway north, continued down the taxiway. I told him to stop, but he said, 'why.' I told him, we didn't have clearance to taxi down north from ground. He said that he talked to someone, that talked to someone, that talked to the FAA. They said that we were to continue to operate as we did before. After that, ground came over the frequency, cleared us to the gate. We parked the aircraft, continued about the taxiway thing. I could see that I was in a no-win solution with the guy. So we, or I, just stopped the conversation. As a first officer, I'm going to the chief pilot with this problem. And I guess, I'll keep filing NASA reports out when I get a hard nose captain. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: report is a cya. Reporter is flying with a captain who makes his own rules. Reporter is expecting to be violated on something so is sending in a NASA report every time he sees a rule violated that might incriminate him. Indicated 3 more are on the way from this month's flying with this captain.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF MLG TURNED OFF RWY AFTER LNDG AND TAXIED WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: LANDED RWY 3 SAT. CLRED TO CLR RWY, CALL GND CTL. WE EXITED TAXIWAY D. I CALLED GND BUT DIDN'T GET A REPLY. THE CAPT MADE A L HAND TURN ONTO TAXIWAY N, CONTINUED DOWN THE TAXIWAY. I TOLD HIM TO STOP, BUT HE SAID, 'WHY.' I TOLD HIM, WE DIDN'T HAVE CLRNC TO TAXI DOWN N FROM GND. HE SAID THAT HE TALKED TO SOMEONE, THAT TALKED TO SOMEONE, THAT TALKED TO THE FAA. THEY SAID THAT WE WERE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS WE DID BEFORE. AFTER THAT, GND CAME OVER THE FREQ, CLRED US TO THE GATE. WE PARKED THE ACFT, CONTINUED ABOUT THE TAXIWAY THING. I COULD SEE THAT I WAS IN A NO-WIN SOLUTION WITH THE GUY. SO WE, OR I, JUST STOPPED THE CONVERSATION. AS A FO, I'M GOING TO THE CHIEF PLT WITH THIS PROBLEM. AND I GUESS, I'LL KEEP FILING NASA RPTS OUT WHEN I GET A HARD NOSE CAPT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPT IS A CYA. RPTR IS FLYING WITH A CAPT WHO MAKES HIS OWN RULES. RPTR IS EXPECTING TO BE VIOLATED ON SOMETHING SO IS SENDING IN A NASA RPT EVERY TIME HE SEES A RULE VIOLATED THAT MIGHT INCRIMINATE HIM. INDICATED 3 MORE ARE ON THE WAY FROM THIS MONTH'S FLYING WITH THIS CAPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.