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Attributes | |
ACN | 200895 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : crg |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 275 msl bound upper : 291 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : crg |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 20 |
ASRS Report | 200895 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My student, who is a private multi engine pilot, called me because he wanted to fly and get some actual IFR experience. We called FSS and got a WX briefing, filed an IFR flight plan from daytona beach to crg. We did the preflight and flew to craig airport (crg). WX was reported 200 ft overcast 2 mi visibility. WX at dab was VFR. Jacksonville approach gave us the clearance to descend and intercept the localizer for ILS 32 at crg. Everything during this part of the flight went without problem. We intercepted the localizer and started the ILS 32 at crg, jacksonville approach handed us to crg tower, we reported and we had the clearance to land. The student was getting a little behind the plan. I was dividing the attention between autoride, teaching, and making sure that we were on course. The student forgot the decision height at about 400 ft. He started looking to the approach plate and started losing the GS. I told him to get it back, he made a correction, and then told me that the decision height was 291 MSL, at this point I looked at the altimeter and it was 275, immediately I looked outside and I had the runway environment, so I decided to make the landing instead of flying a missed approach. At that point, I consider that it was safer to land, than continue flying, because my student was really nervous.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT TRAINING IN IMC DSND BELOW DECISION HEIGHT INADVERTENTLY.
Narrative: MY STUDENT, WHO IS A PRIVATE MULTI ENG PLT, CALLED ME BECAUSE HE WANTED TO FLY AND GET SOME ACTUAL IFR EXPERIENCE. WE CALLED FSS AND GOT A WX BRIEFING, FILED AN IFR FLT PLAN FROM DAYTONA BEACH TO CRG. WE DID THE PREFLT AND FLEW TO CRAIG ARPT (CRG). WX WAS RPTED 200 FT OVERCAST 2 MI VISIBILITY. WX AT DAB WAS VFR. JACKSONVILLE APCH GAVE US THE CLRNC TO DSND AND INTERCEPT THE LOC FOR ILS 32 AT CRG. EVERYTHING DURING THIS PART OF THE FLT WENT WITHOUT PROBLEM. WE INTERCEPTED THE LOC AND STARTED THE ILS 32 AT CRG, JACKSONVILLE APCH HANDED US TO CRG TWR, WE RPTED AND WE HAD THE CLRNC TO LAND. THE STUDENT WAS GETTING A LITTLE BEHIND THE PLAN. I WAS DIVIDING THE ATTN BTWN AUTORIDE, TEACHING, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE ON COURSE. THE STUDENT FORGOT THE DECISION HEIGHT AT ABOUT 400 FT. HE STARTED LOOKING TO THE APCH PLATE AND STARTED LOSING THE GS. I TOLD HIM TO GET IT BACK, HE MADE A CORRECTION, AND THEN TOLD ME THAT THE DECISION HEIGHT WAS 291 MSL, AT THIS POINT I LOOKED AT THE ALTIMETER AND IT WAS 275, IMMEDIATELY I LOOKED OUTSIDE AND I HAD THE RWY ENVIRONMENT, SO I DECIDED TO MAKE THE LNDG INSTEAD OF FLYING A MISSED APCH. AT THAT POINT, I CONSIDER THAT IT WAS SAFER TO LAND, THAN CONTINUE FLYING, BECAUSE MY STUDENT WAS REALLY NERVOUS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.